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RE: [Xen-users] RE: Research -> do participate.....

To: "anant" <ANigam@xxxxxxxxxxx>, xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] RE: Research -> do participate.....
From: "Petersson, Mats" <Mats.Petersson@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:56:36 +0100
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of anant
> Sent: 21 December 2006 15:39
> To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Xen-users] RE: Research -> do participate.....
> 
> 
> I dont understand what you are trying to say here.
> My simple question was is it possible to have windows XP on 
> top of XEN or not. 

Yes, it's possible and works today. At least if we assume that you mean
running Windows as a guest-OS on top of Xen - if you mean using Windows
as a "Dom0", whilst that's technically possible to achieve, there's
commercial/legal restrictions that prevent this from happening anytime
soon. 

> If it is possible then i want to know who  have successfully
> implemented it and how. Have you installed WIndows on top of 
> XEN or you just say what you read.

I have recently installed Windows 2K3 on my machine here. 

> These are two different things. 
> So if you have really implemented it then i would be pleased 
> to know how you
> achieved that install . 

What part of the "install" do you want to know? The steps I took to
implement the code in svm.c and friends in the first instance, or the
step I took to write the configuration file for the installation, the
step(s) I took to insert a DVD in my DVD-drive or something else?

The current version of svm.c (which I use a slightly older version of)
is available in the XenSource today. [Of course, if you're using an
Intel processor, you'd better ask someone else, as I'm working for AMD
and I have not spent any time implementing ANY of the Intel code - aside
from some minor work in the shared section of the HVM code]. 

There's been several posts with complete or partial configuration files
- search the archive of this mailing list.

If you can't get a DVD to work correctly, sorry - you're on the wrong
list. 

> If not then that documentation is 
> probably right
> which says its release is due in coming year by march.
> Thanks for your reply anyway

Which documentation?

XenSource just released V3.0.4 which adds to the 3.0.3 by supporting SMP
in Windows. What more do you want?

Yes, I do understand that this is NOT a shrink-wrapped release from SuSE
or RedHat - that will take a few weeks (or more, depending on where in
the release cycles they are, as they run releases in their own cycles,
not necessarily matching up with Xen). 

--
Mats
> 
> 
> Petersson, Mats wrote:
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >> [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of anant
> >> Sent: 21 December 2006 15:07
> >> To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [Xen-users] Research -> do participate.....
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi all,
> >> This is simple research on the present situation of having 
> >> windows OS on top
> >> of XEN.
> >> I have got to know that RedHat or SuSE etc doesnt support 
> >> Windows as a guest
> >> OS even if its fully virtualized.
> > 
> > Well, fully virtualized is the ONLY choice here, so why 
> bring that into
> > the equation. 
> > 
> > Note also that "not supported" doesn't mean that it doesn't 
> work - it
> > just means that you have no comeback should you rely on 
> this feature. If
> > you buy a Land Rover, it may state in the instruction manual that it
> > doesn't work in water - but it doesn't mean that you absolute can't
> > drive it through a river, just that you can't claim on the 
> warranty if
> > you end up sucking in water through the air-intake... 
> > 
> >> But documentation over the net says that there are many 
> >> people who have
> >> successfully installed Windows OS on top of XEN, having LINUX 
> >> as a host OS(i
> >> am not sure about which linux version).
> > 
> > The important key here is probably more which version of 
> Xen that the
> > guest is run upon, rather than which OS is used for the 
> host - why would
> > the host matter? It's just there to allow you to do "xm 
> create" and to
> > translate disk read requests into file-reads, virtual 
> network requests
> > to real network requests, etc. Nothing much depends on the 
> HOST os in a
> > Xen implementation. 
> >> 
> >> So if you have got any information, even if you have not 
> >> implement it, do
> >> comment and those who have successfully installed it then do 
> >> share it like
> >> on which Host system it worked and all .
> > 
> > Isn't this pretty meaningless to post on this list - this 
> is a Xen users
> > list, so if they are using Xen, they are bound to use some 
> variant of
> > Linux. It's not like Debian, Mandriva, Ubuntu, Red Hat 
> Enterprise Linux
> > or SuSE Enterprise Linux are entirely differnet host OS's - 
> they all use
> > the same Linux Kernel - they may have some slightly 
> different sets of
> > patches applied to the kernel and of course. 
> > 
> >> 
> >> But as far as i know after lot of research that in coming 
> >> year by end of
> >> march RedHat, SuSE would support windows as a guest OS.
> > 
> > That is up to RedHat and SuSE, and based on their 
> evaluation of the Xen
> > version available at the time, I would expect. 
> > 
> > --
> > Mats
> >> -- 
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> >> 994.html#a8009333
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> >> 
> >> 
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