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Re: [Xen-devel] xen-2.0 20040910 problems

To: Keir Fraser <Keir.Fraser@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] xen-2.0 20040910 problems
From: Brian Wolfe <ahzz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:34:11 -0500
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Actually, it IS an sis900. 8-P I didn't even stop to think of looking
for the module with the error message. *thwaps self*

In past kernels, the sis900 driver has behaved correctly. I DO have
writeable page tables enabled though.

The server was sitting idle at the time of the problem triggering each
time. So I don't think it was a load issue....

Could you point me to the location you found that path at? I'll do a bit
of debugging with it as a moduel to see if I can't figure it out...


On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 15:09, Keir Fraser wrote:
> What network driver are you using? The sis900 driver has a message
> similar to what you describe:
>  "NULL pointer encountered in Rx ring, skipping"
> 
> Looks like a path that isn't supposed to trigger, but the driver
> writer notes som elatent bug(s) that perhaps Xen + high load triggers?
> 
>  -- Keir
> 
> > A VM bug would account for the repeated glitch that I am running into.
> > In domain0 the xenlinux ernel will eventaully enter an infinite loop of
> > the same message. "null pointer encountered in RC ring. Skiping". (not a
> > word for word copy, haven't captured via serial port yet).
> > 
> > It appears that if I leave the xen-br0 interface mis-configured so that
> > Domain-0 can NOT pass packets destined to other domains it triggers the
> > bug much more quickly.
> > 
> > This has happened to snapshots taken at the following dates: 20040905,
> > 20040908, 20040909 and did NOT happen with snapshots at or prior to
> > 20040903.
> > 
> > Yes, I made certain in each case that all fo the kernels and libs were
> > not infected by prior snapshot versions.(a side benifit of the .deb
> > packages, when replaced by a new version, all of the old version files
> > are deleted prior to the install fo the new version.)
> > 
> > If you need any specific tests, traces, or information, please feel free
> > to reply to me with testing instructions and parameters. :) 
> > 
> > Hope this helps!
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> > On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 02:05, Ian Pratt wrote:
> > > > I have been experimenting with xen 2.0 and before that with 
> > > > xeno-unstable. It
> > > > has proved interesting and promising
> > > > 
> > > > However, the last few updates have been problematic. In particular it 
> > > > looks as
> > > > if the ext3 filesystem is not correctly handled.
> > > 
> > > Can you give us an idea when it last worked reliably for you?
> > > 
> > > > Recent history:
> > > > 
> > > >     20040907:  occasional kernel BUGs
> > > >     20040908:  instant reboot loop when booting xen
> > > >     20040909:  mysterious filesystem problems
> > > >     20040910:  mysterious filesystem problems
> > > 
> > > I suspect that these are all a result of experiencing some
> > > virtual memory bug.
> > > 
> > > It's pretty odd, as we haven't seen any problems in our testing,
> > > but its possible that our automated testing doesn't run enough
> > > concurrent domains to tweak it.
> > > 
> > > Can you tell us a bit more about your setup, e.g. SMP? Xeon or
> > > Opteron? 
> > > 
> > > What are the other domains doing when 'rpm -qa' explodes?
> > > 
> > > What version of libc are you using i.e. 'ldd /bin/rpm' ? (We've
> > > never used mandrake, but I doubt this is significant)
> > > 
> > > If you can narrow down to a simple to reproduce test case I'm
> > > sure we can find and fix this.
> > >  
> > > > On a different topic, I have never yet seen the web interface work for 
> > > > long
> > > > enough to be useful - it always crashes with the int-text type clash 
> > > > that was
> > > > mentioned somewhere in the changelogs as having been fixed.
> > > 
> > > The web interface is very much a work-in-progress that we're
> > > hoping other people will contribute on.   
> > > 
> > > Ian
> > > 
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