Re: [Xen-users] New to Xen

[Christian Motschke <christian@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Am 09.11.2011 um 18:05 schrieb admin@xxxxxxx:

> Yes I spent a two days before coming here trying to get a feel for what is 
> necessary.
I can't imagine what you have read in those 2 days, but if you only spend one 
hour in numerous threads on this mailing list, you would have found the answer 
to your questions.

> 
> The web resources are sketchy and pretty inconsequential.
> 
> If you search the web, you will find most new to Xen is looking for a  distro 
> with Dom0, so that they can concentrate on figuring out the rest. It 
> immediately resonated with  me as the logical step.
> I just echoed that sentiment.
> The response by Nick Kamis and Sehr Geehrter Herr Dettenbach, is an 
> unnecessarily uncouth slap through the face no one  deserves.
And where is the apology for _your_ rude reaction? You has not only responded 
but offended all (at least germans) on the list.

> 
> I strongly suggest those who are tired dealing with new users create a new 
> usergroup for advanced users and you all go there, and let (new to Xen) users 
> have a Xen group they can help each other at their level.

> The name Xen-users group is deceiving based on the level of support you are 
> willing to give newcombers.
> We all have to start somewhere and most of you forgot that.
> 
> Except for the two constructive responses I received from Aaron and Andrew, 
> the group serves no purpose for someone new to Xen.
A user group is not only for asking questions, you are also wellcome to read 
the answers to that qestions. 

> 
> You cannot have it both ways attacking new users who ADMIT in the first line 
> of their posts to be new to Xen and then expect that new users will take up 
> Xen.
> I honestly don't understand what you want to achieve other than to alienate 
> new users from Xen.
> 
> If the two people who succeeded to  troll with me did not pull their 
> triggers, there would have been three posts total period.. wouldn't that be 
> nice?
> 
> See where we are now... count the mails.
So I hope, this was your last post.

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Simon Hobson wrote:
>> admin@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>> What did I do to deserve this ?
>> 
>> I too think Niels's response was somewhat OTT.
>> 
>> But, put yourself in the other persons shoes. Your posting comes across as 
>> "I don't want to figure anything out for myself, could you spoonfeed me 
>> please". Most people are happy to help, but draw the line at someone who 
>> gives the appearance of not wanting to put any work in themselves.
>> 
>> I don't know if you've already looked at what documentation is easily 
>> available and easy to find - the wording/tone of your message suggests you 
>> might not have done so. That's a good way to get people's backs up, since 
>> the documentation is there specifically to avoid needing to deal with 
>> individual requests from every new user - which I think you can imagine can 
>> be very sapping of limited resources.
>> 
>> The fact is that Xen is not a trivial tool to setup and use. You are going 
>> to have to put some effort into learning it if you are going to get the best 
>> results.
>> 
> 
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