[Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH] rendezvous-based local time calibration WOW!

[Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks, Dan! Of course, there are new features since 3.2 that I did not
include in by version-number-change announcement email. I'll make a suitably
updated list for the actual 4.0 release announcement.

 -- Keir

On 4/8/08 20:40, "Dan Magenheimer" <dan.magenheimer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> After two hours of constant samples with c/s 18229, max
> skew is at 251ns!  That's 70-150x better than I was
> measuring just a couple of weeks ago.  YMMV of course.
> 
> If you are looking for another marketing-speak bullet for
> the 4.0 release announcement, you can call this:
> 
> * Greatly improved precision for time-sensitive SMP VMs
> 
> or as I am subject to American hyperbole:
> 
> * Dramatically improved precision for time-sensitive SMP VMs
> 
> Thanks again!
> Dan
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Magenheimer [mailto:dan.magenheimer@xxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:37 AM
>> To: 'Keir Fraser'; 'Xen-Devel (E-mail)'
>> Cc: 'Ian Pratt'; 'Dave Winchell'
>> Subject: RE: [PATCH] rendezvous-based local time calibration WOW!
>> 
>> 
>> Looks good to me (and much cleaner).  I've booted it and
>> will leave it running for a few hours.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Dan
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Keir Fraser [mailto:keir.fraser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:10 AM
>>> To: dan.magenheimer@xxxxxxxxxx; Xen-Devel (E-mail)
>>> Cc: Ian Pratt; Dave Winchell
>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] rendezvous-based local time calibration WOW!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Applied as c/s 18229. I rewrote it quite a bit, although
>> the principle
>>> remains the same.
>>> 
>>>  -- Keir
>>> 
>>> On 4/8/08 16:24, "Dan Magenheimer"
>> <dan.magenheimer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> OK, how about this version.  The rendezvous only collects
>>>> the key per-cpu time data then sets up a per-cpu 1ms timer
>>>> to later update the timestamp record and vcpu system time,
>>>> so neither should have racing issues.
>>>> 
>>>> I've only run it for about an hour but still haven't seen
>>>> any skew over 600nsec so apparently it is the collection of
>>>> the key time data that must be closely synchronized (probably
>>>> to ensure the slope is correct) while exact synchronization
>>>> of setting the timestamp records is less important.
>>>> 
>>>> Note that I'm not positive I got the clocksource=tsc part
>>>> correct... but am interested in your opinion on whether
>>>> clocksource=tsc can now be eliminated anyway (as the
>>>> main reason I pushed for it was because of unacceptable
>>>> skew which with this patch appears to be fixed).
>>>> 
>>>> Signed-off-by: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Keir Fraser [mailto:keir.fraser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:25 AM
>>>>> To: dan.magenheimer@xxxxxxxxxx; Xen-Devel (E-mail)
>>>>> Cc: Ian Pratt; Dave Winchell
>>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] rendezvous-based local time calibration WOW!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's not safe to poke a new timestamp record from an
>>> interrupt handler
>>>>> (which is what the smp_call_function() callback functions
>>>>> are). Users of the
>>>>> timestamp records (e.g., get_s_time) need
>>>>> local_irq_save/restore() or an
>>>>> equivalent of the Linux seqlock. The latter is likely faster.
>>>>> I'm dubious
>>>>> about update_vcpu_system_time() from an interrupt handler
>>>>> too. It needs
>>>>> thought about how it might race with a context switch (change
>>>>> of 'current')
>>>>> or if it interrupts an existing invocation of
>>>>> update_vcpu_system_time().
>>>>> 
>>>>>  -- Keir
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/8/08 17:50, "Dan Magenheimer"
>>> <dan.magenheimer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The synchronization of local_time_calibration (l_t_c) via
>>>>>> round-to-nearest-epoch provided some improvement, but I was
>>>>>> still seeing skew up to 16usec and higher.  I measured the
>>>>>> temporal distance between the rounded-epoch vs when ltc
>>>>>> was actually running to ensure there wasn't some kind of
>>>>>> bug and found that l_t_c was running up to 150us after the
>>>>>> round-epoch and sometimes up to 50us before.  I guess this
>>>>>> is the granularity of setting a Xen timer.  While it seemed
>>>>>> that +/- 100us shouldn't cause that much skew, I finally
>>>>>> decided to try synchronization-via-rendezvous, as suggested
>>>>>> by Ian here:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2008-07/msg
>>>> 01074.html
>>>>> 
>> http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2008-07/msg
> 01080.html
>>> 
>>> The result is phenomenal... using this approach (in attached
>>> patch), I have yet to see a skew exceed 1usec!!!  So this is
>>> about a 10-fold increase in accuracy vs the rounded-epoch
>>> method and about 20-fold over the one-epoch-from-NOW() method.
>>> 
>>> The platform time is now read once for all processors rather
>>> than once per processor.  (Actually, it is read once again
>>> in platform_time_calibration()... by "inlining" that routine
>>> into master_local_time_calibration() that extra read can
>>> be -- and probably should be -- avoided too.)
>>> 
>>> It may be too late to get this into 3.3.0 but, if so, please
>>> consider it asap for 3.3.1 rather than just xen-unstable/3.4.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> ===================================
>>> Thanks... for the memory
>>> I really could use more / My throughput's on the floor
>>> The balloon is flat / My swap disk's fat / I've OOM's in store
>>> Overcommitted so much
>>> (with apologies to the late great Bob Hope)
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 



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