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Re: [Xen-users] Proposal for a xen-users(/devel?) netiquette

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Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Proposal for a xen-users(/devel?) netiquette
From: "Henning Sprang" <henning_sprang@xxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:07:18 +0200
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(took a while, but here my reply)

On 9/22/06, Tim Post <tim.post@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I agree that a 'fully moderated' list isn't the best idea. Just looking
at the number of posts that have come across the last 2 months its
obvious the lists are getting really busy, and only going to get

Right, hopefully more and more people are using Xen - which
automatically leads to more questions :)

I would think that a few should be the ones to point out the rules and
let them handle moderation when its needed, instead of a poster
receiving a bunch of "RTFR" (R being rules) replies from many.
These get  archived in Google quickly as this list is aggregated by a few dozen
list archive sites.

You mean when people post these/too many RTFR mails publicly? One
thing, if said in public, it will not be said too often because the
others see that a person has already been told to read and follow
netiquette. So their will be no masses in the archives.

As you pointed out, there is netiquette to follow when pointing out

Did I say that? I didn't mean it. Rules for pointing out the
netiquette to others would be:

* only point out netiquette errors in private mail to people - you
want to help them get better, not deface them

If we make the netiquette well visible, I think it's O.K. when someone
too lazy to read them gets multiple hints to go bacj and read
netiquette before further posting. But mostly these people will be
just ignored, I think it's unlikely they become flooded.

* only point them about about breaking rules which are contained in
our discussed and agreed upon set of netiquette rules. If you think
these aren't enough, as if it's o.k. to add a rule there.

I've been a faithful subscriber and participant in a great many lists
that started off to be a wonderful resource and just degraded into a
such a fido-net-ish mess of ego and regulations that the list itself
ceased to be of any use.

Let me understand you: you mean too many rules  break the list, or too
many "wrong" posts?
I think, it's both. Therefore I wanted to discuss the rules, and than
establish a set that is agreed on. Nobody should just set up their own
rules now, because we have a discussed set of rules.

So given that its highly impractical to make the list fully moderated ..
some 'hall monitors' (perhaps) would probably be prudent. I'm not by any
means volunteering, only suggesting the idea. :)

Neither do I. But I could bear it anymore. So now I trust in the
people reading the netiquette before they post, nobody will deface
people in public, and everything becomes nice :)


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