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[Xen-devel] Re: [RFC, PATCH 0/24] VMI i386 Linux virtualization interfac
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[Xen-devel] Re: [RFC, PATCH 0/24] VMI i386 Linux virtualization interface proposal |
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Zachary Amsden <zach@xxxxxxxxxx> |
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Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:48:47 -0800 |
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Arjan van de Ven wrote:
makes debugging and
development easier,
that I don't buy; a fixed interface tends to make debugging harder not
easier since you can't change it to add more information
This we find to be quite true. Now, you can use a VMI kernel, make
changes to it, run it on native hardware, and be confident that it will
run properly in a VM as well. And you can develop in a VM, with
confidence that you can run on native hardware. You can even replace
the entire "ROM" image with your own custom debugging image to add any
type of debugging or performance monitoring facility you want - and you
have some very, very interesting hook points into the kernel that make
that task much more achievable.
that I buy for binary only hypervisors. But in an open source world I'll
buy this a LOT less as being relevant.
This is not about the open source versus the closed source world. It is
about the real world, where customers want to make as few changes as
possible to a working and already deployed system. If they have to
recompile a kernel just to get their system to run again, that is a pain
point that is easily avoided.
Zach
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