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Re: [Xen-users] HA Xen on 2 servers!! No NFS, special hardware, DRBD or

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Subject: Re: [Xen-users] HA Xen on 2 servers!! No NFS, special hardware, DRBD or iSCSI...
From: Michael Paesold <mpaesold@xxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:53:11 +0200
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Chris de Vidal wrote:
Reflecting upon this some more, I think perhaps it could be done in Dom0, 
making setting up
software RAID inside the DomUs unnecessary.  But that requires a shared 
hardware-like setup.  DRBD
0.7 doesn't allow primary/primary (equivalent to shared hardware) but things 
like AoE do (NBD
should, too).  When DRBD 0.8 becomes more stable and primary/primary is 
possible, perhaps that
will be an option.  I like the DRBD project and would be eager to try it.

As Eric said, using AoE means any network interruption generates a resync.  But 
then that's a
concern with /ANY/ AoE or iSCSI + software RAID setup.  So methinks AoE isn't 
too bad.  Add in the
fr1 patch and it might be usable.

If one were to patch the kernel with the "Fast RAID" patch and use AoE to 
create /dev/md0 on Dom0
using both a local disk and a remote, this might work!  In this case, LVM would 
no longer be a
necessity.

It can't see how this should work with RAID in Dom0. At that point you are just at the same problem as with DRBD. During live migration, you would first have to deactivate the RAID on the first node and only then activate it on the second node.

But for live migration to work, both need to be active for a short period of time.

I wonder if anyone will ever step up and create a patch to xend that makes it possible to do live migration without having a storage setup that can be active at two nodes, i.e. suspend -> disconnect storage -> connect storage on second node -> resume on second node. I am really sorry I have no time to do it myself.

> Does anyone know if Xen's live migration requires something like GFS
> on shared hardware?  Or does
> it take care of the problem as long as it's the only thing accessing
> the drive?

Only one node must access the device at a time. But for your RAID-in-dom0 idea, that is not the case.

Best Regards,
Michael Paesold






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