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Re: [Xen-users] Apple iMac / Mac Mini Core Duo, OS X under Xen?

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Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Apple iMac / Mac Mini Core Duo, OS X under Xen?
From: "Greg Cymbalski" <cymbalski@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:10:47 -0500
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Does the presence of VMX in cpuinfo necessarily mean the whole platform supports it?  I've only played with a few machines with hardware VT which was enabled after a BIOS upgrade and now, unfortunately, I can't go back and see if the flag showed up originally.

Besides, will Xen boot from EFI?

On 3/13/06, Erik Dykema <dykema@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Greg-
     Thanks for your response.  It's my understanding that hardware
virtualization IS currently available on the intel based Macs by
virtue of their Core Duo chips, see:

http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/IntelVT
and
http://osxbook.com/book/bonus/misc/linux/

On the 2nd page, it shows the output of proc/cpuinfo, which shows VMX,
the cpu flag for hardware virtualization.

     It is possible that some extra work needs to be done to
virtualize the extra 'trusted computing' chip which OS X requires.

Erik

On 3/13/06, Greg Cymbalski < cymbalski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> As the unmodified guests OSX and Windows would require hardware
> virtualisation, which is not present on intel-based Macs (yet), plus the
> fact that OSX has software-based restrictions on what hardware it can run on
> (which would probably make it impossible to run it legally under Xen
> depending on how you interpret the EULA), it seems unlikely that it will be
> working at any point in the near future.  I'm sure it's only a matter of
> time before people get cracked versions of OSX running atop hardware
> virtualisation, though.
>
>
> On 3/13/06, Erik Dykema < dykema@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
>  Hi-
>      Is anyone trying Xen on the intel iMac or Mac Mini machines, with
> hardware virtualization?
>      There has been lots of speculation on the blogs & etc., that it
> will be possible to run Linux w/ Xen as the dom0, and then Windows XP
> and OS X on top of it, but no one seems to be talking about it on this
> list.  Has anyone tried it?
>
> thanks,
> Erik

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