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Re: [Xen-devel] xend doesn't start with xen-staging tip (on ubuntu 9.10

To: Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@xxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] xend doesn't start with xen-staging tip (on ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04)
From: Sander Eikelenboom <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:14:15 +0200
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Hello Pasi,

Yes i also found out that creating a bridge from debian networking scripts is 
more reliable for me.
So i now have a bridge with all xen guests (xen_bridge), which is routed with 
iptables with my eth0 and eth1, together with some portforwarding for specific 
services.

Is there allready a wiki for networking related "best" practices stuff ?
--
Sander


Monday, June 21, 2010, 8:24:43 PM, you wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:30:37AM -0700, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
>> > From: Ian Jackson [mailto:Ian.Jackson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > 
>> > Dan Magenheimer writes ("RE: [Xen-devel] xend doesn't start with xen-
>> > staging tip (on ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04)"):
>> > > "Your networking to your Xen guests which always worked has
>> > > suddenly stopped working when you've upgraded to the latest
>> > > Xen bits.  You asked on xen-devel what to do to fix it
>> > > and got the reply: 'You need to set up your own network
>> > > to go through a bridge now'.  Do you know now exactly what
>> > > trivial things you need to do?  If not, do you know exactly
>> > > where to look for documentation to tell you what you need to do?"
>> > 
>> > People who are running production systems on xen-unstable bits need
>> > more help than we can sensibly give them.
>> 
>> True enough.  But to clarify, we're not talking about those people;
>> we're talking about *developers* updating xen-unstable bits on an
>> otherwise completely stable base distro.  And we're talking about
>> xen-users installing xen-unstable on their systems to see if
>> it fixes a bug or adds an important feature they are waiting for.
>> "Oops, networking is broke, I guess I'd better roll back"...
>> which means fewer people testing and giving feedback on xen-unstable.
>> 
>> > As I say we'll make a song and dance about this in the 4.1 release
>> > notes, announcements, etc.  Another related substantial change will be
>> > the switch away from xend in the default configuration, and it makes
>> > sense to make both of these changes at the same time.
>> 
>> Historically in Xen, "song and dance" has been more like
>> "hum a bar offkey and quickly twirl around" :-)  I hope
>> this change at this release is a bit more.
>> 

> The xen bridge setup magic has failed for *many* people, there are people
> complaining about it frequently on ##xen on irc.

> So imho it's good to get it fixed, even by removing the code :)

> -- Pasi






-- 
Best regards,
 Sander                            mailto:linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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