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RE: [Xen-devel] RE: [PATCH] record max stime skew (was RE: [PATCH] stric

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Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] RE: [PATCH] record max stime skew (was RE: [PATCH] strictly increasing hvm guest time)
From: "Dan Magenheimer" <dan.magenheimer@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:03:41 -0600
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> > IMHO, it would be nice to put this patch into the tree as it
> > will be good for helping to diagnose time skew problems
> > such as the one just reported on the list.
> 
> Oops!  Just after I sent the above email, I checked again and
> the same machine (no reboots, no guests ever launched) now reports
> a max stime skew of 4333ns!!  Methinks there might be some
> periodic glitch in the calibration code?

OK this version records not only max but also a distribution
of skew.  (The code is a bit ugly... I thought about doing
something fancy with log-binary but decided a few base-10
ranges were clearer for a human to read.)

With this, I use "watch -d 'xm debug-key t; xm dmesg | tail -3'"
and can observe that (on my single-socket two-core recent-vintage
Intel box) roughly three-quarters of the skew measurements are
between 10-100nsec, roughly one-quarter are between 100ns-1us,
a couple percent are between 1us-10us and a few are >10us.

This represents an approximate distribution of how long an hvm
guest might observe time to be stopped (if it is able to repeatedly
read time values quickly enough).

So on some machines, this might be substantially worse than the
old hvm-platform-timer-built-on-tsc mechanism (though we had
no monotonicity constraint built into that).

I wonder if the >1us outliers are occurring only if the
processor has been idle for awhile, vs entirely random.

Dan

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