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xen-users
Re: [Xen-users] Xen vs XCP
 
  
  
    2011-04-26 07:34 keltezéssel, PFarthing írta:
    
      
      
      Hi all, first post here. I've
          been working with Vmware for a while and now I'm trying to
          learn about Xen/XCP. I'm finding myself very confused between
          the two. Haven't been able to find a product matrix. I know
          that XCP uses Xen. But I cannot find anything regarding the
          benefit of the one versus the other anywhere on the net or in
          the mailing list archives. So, I was wondering if you guys can
          enlighten me? Which is best for what? Why? 
        
      Also, I know both use a lot of
          3rd party tools. So, if there is a preference for one product
          over the other, can you also tell me what you use to manage
          it? 
        
      Just to mention, cloud computing
          is not something I'm interested in. That seems relegated to
          people trying to provide/sell services. I'm looking
          specifically at building highly available web farms and
          databases using virtual tech. So far, no plans for building
          out something that I would sell to others directly, no pushing
          my vms up to Amazon, not reselling any VPS, etc. 
        
      thanks! 
      
 
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    Hi, 
     
    My memories of Vmware products are quite old, so I wouldn't compare
    Xen or XCP to them, but the main difference between the two could be
    outlined in the following: 
    Xen is a hypervisor (plus some related tools) depending on the
    version more or less stable. 
    XCP is a complete solution (based on Xen (e.g. XCP 1.0 has Xen
    hypervisor 3.4.2)) with a hypervisor kernel and all the tools (okay
    most of them) bundled into the xe set of commands (even for network
    and storage management). 
    Both approaches have their benefits and drawbacks, XCP offers a
    relatively easy and fast start if you are willing/able to dedicate
    (at least) one computer to try it. Xen can be installed onto the
    distribution of your choice (it works even on NetBSD, and it had
    been working on OpenSolaris as well (not anymore with recent
    changes)), but you will need to do the resource management (like
    network and storage) using the tools of that platform. My personal
    reason of switching from Xen to XCP was not the tools which I had to
    relearn, but the problem of not finding a suitable and stable kernel
    for Dom0. Since the switch I had no stability problems (debian lenny
    before , since then xcp 0.1, 0.5 and now 1.0). 
    XCP is not without its drawbacks as well for example there is no
    libvirt support, there weren't fence/stonith agents for clusters
    running atop (I've started writing one:
    https://github.com/geza-gemes/Xen-Cloud-Platform-Xensever-stonith-fence-agent/)
    etc. 
     
    Hope that helps making the right choice for your goals. 
     
    Regards 
     
    Geza 
  
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