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Re: [Xen-users] VMWare vs. Xen, is the conflict by VMware deliberate?

To: Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] VMWare vs. Xen, is the conflict by VMware deliberate?
From: Stefan de Konink <skinkie@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:49:35 +0100
Cc: Evan Lavelle <sa212+xen@xxxxxxxxxxx>, xen list <xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Nico Kadel-Garcia schreef:
> Evan Lavelle wrote:
>> Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>>
>>> So, I tried running VMWare Workstation on top of a Xen enabled Dom0.
>>> And VMWare promptly started up with a "You're running a Xen
>>> Hypervisor! Bad sys-geek, no biscuit! We're taking our start-up tool
>>> and going home, p-b-b-b-b-b-b-t-h!"
>>>
>>> Is this a well-founded refusal to start on their part, perhaps due to
>>> kernel behavior conflicts? Or is this an anti-competitive move, to
>>> avoid being able to run VMware Workstation on Xen Dom0's and force
>>> people to select VMWare only? 
>>
>> No idea. But, I'm curious. What makes VMWare think that anyone's going
>> to take them seriously after seeing error messages like that one? Do
>> they actually review their code before selling it to anybody?
>>
>> Evan
> 
> Well, the "bad sys-geek, no biscuit" and "p-b-b-b-b-t-h" were me
> elaborating on it, I'll admit. I'm sorry, my colorful sense of humor
> seems to hve confused you: I'll try to restrain myself on this list.
> 
> The bit about refusing to run with a Xen hypervisor in place was very
> clear, however. It might be justified, but the refusal to even try to
> start up seemed excessively harsh. I'm happy to accept a warning that
> what I'm about to attempt with my software is a bad idea, but I want a
> reference to exactly what the problem is or at least the ability to try
> it, anyway, after insisting on the warning.


Are you able to run VMWare in Qemu and/or if your host runs under HVM?


Stefan
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