But there's no straight forward way of making the page not exist each time,
is there?
Take care,
Sina
-----Original Message-----
From: Keir Fraser [mailto:keir.fraser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:55 AM
To: Sina Bahram; xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Implementing split memory in Xen is annoyingly
hard?
Well, you can trap all everything if you make the page not present.
Beyond that you can selectively make a page writable or executable, but in
these cases it will have to be readable too.
-- Keir
On 12/12/2008 09:50, "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm not trying to make the page executable but not readable, as long as I
> can trap all reads, that's all.
>
> I'll be implementing a split TLB which will handle the fact that all
> executes get shunted to a "split page".
>
> Another way of saying that is that if someone looks up a virtual address,
it
> gets translated to one physical address if it's for read/writes and to
> another one for executes. Sure one can execute the page that is read/write
> and someone could read/write to the page that is execute, but it will
never
> happen because I'd never translate it that way in my code.
>
> Btw, this completely eliminates anything like lisp, javascript, or
anything
> else from running, as they run code they have written all the time, but
> that's why I only plan on doing it for kernel pages which don't write
things
> that they then execute.
>
> Hope that's more clear, and is this possible, do you think, or is my
summary
> in the original email accurate in that it can't be done easily in xen?
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keir Fraser [mailto:keir.fraser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:20 AM
> To: Sina Bahram; xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> xen-research@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Implementing split memory in Xen is annoyingly
> hard?
>
> On 12/12/2008 06:47, "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> #2: Xen absolutely does not, (can not?), cause a fault or other VM exit
to
>> be generated upon an execute or a read of a page.
>
> It's not possible to make a page executable but not readable, so indeed I
> think you're stumped there, unless you can work out a hackish way to
> desynchronise the iTLB and the dTLB (an operation not supported
> architecturally by x86 of course).
>
> -- Keir
>
>
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