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Re: [Xen-devel] Re: Next steps with pv_ops for Xen
 
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Re: [Xen-devel] Re: Next steps with pv_ops for Xen | 
 
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Derek Murray <Derek.Murray@xxxxxxxxxxxx> | 
 
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Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:11:48 +0000 | 
 
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Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
 
So... the interface (a) cannot be used on the Linux VM without at least
one invasive VM modification, due to the requirement of ptes being
explicitly unmapped via hypercall;
 
 
 Also there is the use of VM_FOREIGN 
(http://xenbits.xensource.com/linux-2.6.18-xen.hg?file/b2768401db94/mm/memory.c 
lines 1040--1059), which has been used quite happily in blktap since 
2005 
(http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-changelog/2005-07/msg00053.html). 
While it may not be a priority to get gntdev into pv-ops Linux, I should 
imagine that blktap would be fairly critical.
 
I can't help wondering if this is a hint that now is the time to find a
better API, which doesn't have the requirement (a) that seems to be
causing such trouble?  Are other PV guests --- *BSD, Solaris --- going
to have the same problems with their VM layers if they try to implement
this API?  Upstream Linux pv_ops certainly will, and it would be good if
we could avoid tying unprivileged guests to ABIs which cannot hope to be
merged into pv_ops.
 
 
 I'm open to suggestions... but I think it always reduces to needing a 
hook that is called on process exit before the PTEs are zapped.
 
(Just what is the cost of not having this functionality in blktap,
anyway?)
 
 
 If tapdisk dies whilst holding a granted page, the page can never be 
ungranted, so we leak that page.
Regards,
Derek.
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