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RE: Performance data of Linux native vs. Xen Dom0 and Xen DomU. Re: [Xen

To: "Liang Yang" <multisyncfe991@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "John Byrne" <john.l.byrne@xxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Performance data of Linux native vs. Xen Dom0 and Xen DomU. Re: [Xen-devel] Direct I/O to domU seeing a 30% performance hit
From: "Ian Pratt" <m+Ian.Pratt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:45:46 -0000
Cc: xen-devel <xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Emmanuel Ackaouy <ack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Thread-topic: Performance data of Linux native vs. Xen Dom0 and Xen DomU. Re: [Xen-devel] Direct I/O to domU seeing a 30% performance hit
> Attached is the diff of the two kernel configs.

There are a *lot* of differences between those kernel configs. A cursory
glance spots such gems as:

< CONFIG_DEFAULT_IOSCHED="cfq"
---
> CONFIG_DEFAULT_IOSCHED="anticipatory"

All bets are off.

Ian

 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Pratt" <m+Ian.Pratt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Liang Yang" <yangliang_mr@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "John Byrne" 
> <john.l.byrne@xxxxxx>
> Cc: "xen-devel" <xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Emmanuel Ackaouy" 
> <ack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ian.pratt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:15 AM
> Subject: RE: Performance data of Linux native vs. Xen Dom0 
> and Xen DomU. Re: 
> [Xen-devel] Direct I/O to domU seeing a 30% performance hit
> 
> 
> > I already set dom0_max_vcpus=1 for domain0 when I was doing testing.
> Also,
> > Linux native kernel and domU kernel are all compiled as 
> Uni-Processor
> > mode.All the testing for Linux native, domain0 and domainU 
> are exactly
> the
> > same. All used Linux kernel 2.6.16.29.
> 
> Please could you post a 'diff' of the two kernel configs.
> 
> It might be worth diff'ing the boot messages in both cases too.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ian
> 
> 
> > Regards,
> >
> > Liang
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ian Pratt" <m+Ian.Pratt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Liang Yang" <multisyncfe991@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "John Byrne"
> > <john.l.byrne@xxxxxx>
> > Cc: "xen-devel" <xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Emmanuel Ackaouy"
> > <ack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ian.pratt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:06 AM
> > Subject: RE: Performance data of Linux native vs. Xen Dom0 and Xen
> DomU.
> > Re:
> > [Xen-devel] Direct I/O to domU seeing a 30% performance hit
> >
> >
> > > I'm also doing some performance analysis about Linux native, dom0
> and
> > domU
> > > (para-virtualized). Here are some brief comparison for 256K
> sequential
> > > read/write. The testing is done using for JBOD based on 8 
> Maxtor SAS
> > Atlas
> > > 2
> > > 15K drives with LSI SAS HBA.
> > >
> > > 256K Sequential Read
> > > Linux Native: 559.6MB/s
> > > Xen Domain0: 423.3MB/s
> > > Xen DomainU: 555.9MB/s
> >
> > This doesn't make a lot of sense. Only thing I can think of is that
> > there must be some extra prefetching going on in the domU case. It
> still
> > doesn't explain why the dom0 result is so much worse than native.
> >
> > It might be worth repeating with both native and dom0 boot with
> > maxcpus=1.
> >
> > Are you using near-identical kernels in both cases? Same 
> drivers, same
> > part of the disk for the tests, etc?
> >
> > How are you doing the measurement? A timed 'dd'?
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> > > 256K Sequential Write
> > > Linux Native: 668.9MB/s
> > > Xen Domain0: 708.7MB/s
> > > Xen DomainU: 373.5MB/s
> > >
> > > Just two questions:
> > >
> > > It seems para-virtualized DomU outperform Dom0 in terms of
> sequential
> > read
> > > and is very to Linux native performance. However, DomU does show
> poor
> > (only
> > > 50%) sequential write performance compared with Linux native and
> Dom0.
> > >
> > > Could you explain some reason behind this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Liang
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ian Pratt" <m+Ian.Pratt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "John Byrne" <john.l.byrne@xxxxxx>
> > > Cc: "xen-devel" <xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
> "Emmanuel Ackaouy"
> > > <ack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:20 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] Direct I/O to domU seeing a 30% 
> performance
> > hit
> > >
> > >
> > > > Both dom0 and the domU are SLES 10, so I don't know why 
> the "idle"
> > > > performance of the two should be different. The obvious 
> asymmetry
> is
> > > the
> > > > disk. Since the disk isn't direct, any disk I/O by the 
> domU would
> > > > certainly impact dom0, but I don't think there should 
> be much, if
> > any.
> > > I
> > > > did run a dom0 test with the domU started, but idle and 
> there was
> no
> > > > real change to dom0's numbers.
> > > >
> > > > What's the best way to gather information about what is going on
> > with
> > > > the domains without perturbing them? (Or, at least, perturbing
> > > everyone
> > > > equally.)
> > > >
> > > > As to the test, I am running netperf 2.4.1 on an outside machine
> to
> > > the
> > > > dom0 and the domU. (So the doms are running the netserver
> portion.)
> > I
> > > > was originally running it in the doms to the outside 
> machine, but
> > when
> > > > the bad numbers showed up I moved it to the outside machine
> because
> > I
> > > > wondered if the bad numbers were due to something 
> happening to the
> > > > system time in domU. The numbers is the "outside" test to domU
> look
> > > worse.
> > >
> > >
> > > It might be worth checking that there's no interrupt sharing
> > happening.
> > > While running the test against the domU, see how much CPU 
> dom0 burns
> > in
> > > the same period using 'xm vcpu-list'.
> > >
> > > To keep things simple, have dom0 and domU as uniprocessor guests.
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ian Pratt wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> There have been a couple of network receive throughput
> > > > >> performance regressions to domUs over time that were
> > > > >> subsequently fixed. I think one may have crept in to 3.0.3.
> > > > >
> > > > > The report was (I believe) with a NIC directly assigned to the
> > domU,
> > > so
> > > > > not using netfront/back at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > John: please can you give more details on your config.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ian
> > > > >
> > > > >> Are you seeing any dropped packets on the vif associated with
> > > > >> your domU in your dom0? If so, propagating changeset
> > > > >> 11861 from unstable may help:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> changeset:   11861:637eace6d5c6
> > > > >> user:        kfraser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> date:        Mon Oct 23 11:20:37 2006 +0100
> > > > >> summary:     [NET] back: Fix packet queuing so that packets
> > > > >> are drained if the
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In the past, we also had receive throughput issues to domUs
> > > > >> that were due to socket buffer size logic but those were
> > > > >> fixed a while ago.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Can you send netstat -i output from dom0?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Emmanuel.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 09:55:17PM -0800, John Byrne wrote:
> > > > >>> I was asked to test direct I/O to a PV domU. Since, I had a
> > system
> > > > >>> with two NICs, I gave one to a domU and one dom0. (Each is
> > > > >> running the
> > > > >>> same
> > > > >>> kernel: xen 3.0.3 x86_64.)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I'm running netperf from an outside system to the domU and
> > > > >> dom0 and I
> > > > >>> am seeing 30% less throughput for the domU vs dom0.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Is this to be expected? If so, why? If not, does anyone
> > > > >> have a guess
> > > > >>> as to what I might be doing wrong or what the issue 
> might be?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> John Byrne
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