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RE: [Xense-devel] Vtpm_manager getting TPM_NOSPACE

To: "Osborn, Justin D." <Justin.Osborn@xxxxxxxxxx>, <xense-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Xense-devel] Vtpm_manager getting TPM_NOSPACE
From: "Scarlata, Vincent R" <vincent.r.scarlata@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:18:04 -0800
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Thread-topic: [Xense-devel] Vtpm_manager getting TPM_NOSPACE
Ok, that's very no good. 

The vTPM manager does not have a variable number of TPM keys. It has
exactly 2. One is used for protecting vTPM states and the other for the
vTPM manager info.  

When TPM_Startup is triggered by the BIOS (I believe), any keys that
were loaded into the TPM are purged, opening all TPM key slots. Later
when the vTPM manager is run, the manager loads both of these TPM Keys
during it's init phases. 

Something is not right about your TPM if it is already out of space by
this point, unless it has a quirk that needs to be dealt with
separately. 

What TPM do you have? Maybe we have the same one here that we test with.
Did the problem go away after you reset the TPM?

-Vinnie

-----Original Message-----
From: Osborn, Justin D. [mailto:Justin.Osborn@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:42 AM
To: Scarlata, Vincent R; xense-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Xense-devel] Vtpm_manager getting TPM_NOSPACE

Vinnie,
     This happened on a fresh boot.  Could it be that vtpm_manager has
too many keys it's trying to load into the TPM?  For instance, over time
more keys got added to the persistent storage file and then today it
couldn't load them all.  Unfortunately I deleted the vtpm data files
after I reset the TPM.

Ozzie

--
Justin D. Osborn
Software Engineer
Information Operations
JHU/APL
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scarlata, Vincent R [mailto:vincent.r.scarlata@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:12 PM
> To: Osborn, Justin D.; xense-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [Xense-devel] Vtpm_manager getting TPM_NOSPACE
> 
> Yes, on a sigkill the manager does clean up after itself. 
> When did you get the TPM_NOSPACE error? Were you running the 
> manager or some other TPM application before running the 
> manager and getting this error? On every power cycle, the TPM 
> unloads all it's keys and authorization sessions automatically. 
> 
> So if you get this error on a fresh boot, the TPM is not 
> properly flushing, which is a security issue that they need 
> to fix. If you ran the vtpm manager, shut it down, and 
> started it again and got this problem, then you've found a 
> bug in the manager showing that it's not cleaning up fully. 
> If you ran something else and then the manager, then that 
> something else isn't properly cleaning up.
> 
> -Vinnie Scarlata  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xense-devel-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:xense-devel-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> Osborn, Justin D.
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 6:09 AM
> To: xense-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Xense-devel] Vtpm_manager getting TPM_NOSPACE
> 
> Hi all,
>      I've been working on a project for a while that uses xen 
> and the vtpm.  We have a DomU configured to use a vtpm 
> instance.  When I brought up the box this morning, 
> vtpm_manager failed to start, giving me an error that it 
> received TPM_NOSPACE when trying to load a key.  Is this a bug?
> 
> I usually shut the machine down with /sbin/halt or 
> /sbin/reboot, which just kills vtpm_managerd.  I assume 
> vtpm_managerd is supposed to clean up after itself.  So is 
> there a certain way I should kill vtpm_managerd?
> Or is this a bug?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ozzie
> 
> --
> Justin D. Osborn
> Software Engineer
> Information Operations
> JHU/APL
> 
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