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Re: [Xen-users] Impressive Performance Problems with Small-Files /Small

To: "Balg, Andreas" <a.balg@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Impressive Performance Problems with Small-Files /Small Blocksizes
From: Todd Deshane <deshantm@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 08:49:42 -0400
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Hi Andreas,

You really should run I/O tests that run outside of host memory so you
can see the performance hit at the disk level. Otherwise you are just
testing RAM.

I would like to see your results, but I am also interested in seeing
the disk performance, not just testing of the RAM.

I am collecting my results here:
http://github.com/deshantm/Rapid-Recovery-Desktop-Testing/tree/master/results

My guest systems have 1G allocated to them. The host system has 4 GB.
Desktop class system, Intel Core 2 duo 2.4 GHz.

So far only KVM, but Xen is planned for future work.

Thanks,
Todd


On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Balg, Andreas <a.balg@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello Todd,
>
> I've allocated 2GB of memory to the guests - The host-system has 16GB of RAM
> and I run 7 VMs only - so all happens within the boundaries of physical RAM.
>
> I could offer you the raw data as well - I could send you an excel Sheet with
> all of the Graphs and data used so far. Would that be useful to you? Of course
> I'd be interested in your results as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Andreas
>
>
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> ----- Originalnachricht -----
> Von: Todd Deshane <deshantm@xxxxxxxxx>
> Gesendet: Son, 8.8.2010 03:17
> An: "Balg, Andreas" <a.balg@xxxxxxxx>
> Betreff: Re: [Xen-users] Impressive Performance Problems with Small-Files 
> /Small Blocksizes
>
> Hi,
>
> How much memory is allocated to the guests? The reason I ask is that
> are these runs all or most in memory?
>
> Do you have raw data that I could look at?
>
> I am doing some benchmarking of my own and trying to figure out some
> strange KVM data.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
>
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Balg, Andreas <a.balg@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> hello everybody,
>>
>> during some extensive benchmarking for an evaluation we found some issues 
>> with
>> i/o-performance and also memory bandwidth of Xen 3.4.2 (using XCP-0.5) 
>> running
>> on a quite up-to-date and performant Dell-R610 Server (2 x Xeon E5620, 16G 
>> RAM,
>> 4 x SATA 15K HDD's - RAID 5):
>>
>> - Especially for small block sizes (below 32k) the I/O is very poor.
>>
>> to give some figures:  The same Benchmark
>>  "time iozone -az -i0 -i1 -i2 -i8 -Rb results.xls"
>>
>> Runs around 3 Minutes on the bare Hardware, around 30 Minutes in a KVM-VM
>> and more than 1 hour(!) in a xen VM - See attached graphs and focus on the
>> front of the diagram (red and blue "foot" of the xen graph)
>>
>> What I'd like to know is, if this is be a glitch in a device driver, an 
>> error in our configuration or might be eliminated in any other way using a 
>> workaround or other version.
>>
>> Or is this a proble of the differences in Design or just nobody noticed it 
>> so far and it should be lokked at by the developers. Without these two 
>> significant problems Xen would outperform kvm in almost any possible manner 
>> ....
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>>
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