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Re: [Xen-users] PCI Passthrough to Windows DomU with iCore and P55chipse

To: "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" <space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx>, Xen Users <xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] PCI Passthrough to Windows DomU with iCore and P55chipset ?
From: Velten Spägele <xen@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:08:22 +0100
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cool,

here in Germany you can get the MSI for 175€ and the DP55KG also for about 175€

But the MSI with the heatpipe is more for overclocking users, so i will order the DP55KG within the next days

Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) schrieb:
Hi All,

I have received a BIOS screenshot from member clon22 in hardwarezone.com.sg <http://hardwarezone.com.sg> hardware clinic forum.

His motherboard is MSI P55-GD80. It costs about S$300++ in Singapore.

BIOS screenshot showing the VT-d option is here:

http://enmingteo.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/msi-p55-gd80-motherboard-with-intel-vt-d-support-in-bios/

--
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(2) National University of Singapore
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) <space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Hope I can upgrade to P55 platform next year.


-- Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics)
    BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering)
    Alma Maters:
    (1) Singapore Polytechnic
    (2) National University of Singapore
    My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com
    My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com
    My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo
    Email: space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx>
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    Street: Bedok Reservoir Road
    Country: Singapore

    On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Robert Dunkley <Robert@xxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:Robert@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        Sounds good, P55 can definitely support VT-d so if Intel have
        added bios support then it should work fine.

        After a bit of Googling I heard mention that quite a few of the
        ASRock P55 boards support VT-d too.

        Rob

        *From:* Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
        [mailto:space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx>]
        *Sent:* 02 November 2009 14:43
        *To:* Velten Spägele
        *Cc:* Robert Dunkley; Xen users mailing list;
        space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx>
        *Subject:* Re: [Xen-users] PCI Passthrough to Windows DomU with
        iCore and P55chipset ?

        Hi Velten,

        I have done more research on Google and it is hopeful that
        DP55KG will support VT-d.

        Please refer to the following link:

        
http://www.google.com.sg/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=5&ved=0CBgQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdownloadmirror.intel.com%2F18171%2Feng%2FKG_3822_ReleaseNotes.pdf&rct=j&q=dp55kg+vt-d&ei=W-3uSqOgGMWPkQWA-p2XDw&usg=AFQjCNE7byyUr9G9Vs5-6BDd-r2vCmK5zQ
        
<http://www.google.com.sg/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=5&ved=0CBgQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdownloadmirror.intel.com%2F18171%2Feng%2FKG_3822_ReleaseNotes.pdf&rct=j&q=dp55kg+vt-d&ei=W-3uSqOgGMWPkQWA-p2XDw&usg=AFQjCNE7byyUr9G9Vs5-6BDd-r2vCmK5zQ>

        Please refer to Page 2.

        PRODUCTS: DP55KG, DP55SB, DP55WG (Standard BIOS)

        BIOS Version 3712

        New Fixes/Features:

        Added the capability to show/hide the Vt and Vt-d setup option.

-- Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics)
        BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering)
        Alma Maters:
        (1) Singapore Polytechnic
        (2) National University of Singapore
        My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com
        My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com
        My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo
        Email: space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx>
        Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618
        Street: Bedok Reservoir Road
        Country: Singapore

        2009/11/2 Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
        <space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx>>

        Dear Velten,

        Below is the link to a Intel DP55KG motherboard review by
        motherboards.org <http://motherboards.org>. This link shows the
        BIOS screenshot of DP55KG.

        
http://www.motherboards.org/imageview.html?i=/images/reviews/motherboards/1948_p5_13.jpg

        As you can see in the image, there is the line that says: Intel
        VT for Directed I/O (VT-d). But there's no option for you to
        enable or disable the feature.

        I am wondering if you must enable Intel VT *first* before you
        can enable or disable VT-d.

        To enable VT, you need to have a processor that supports VT. The
        P55 chipset definitely supports VT-d.

        I don't think Intel put VT-d line in the BIOS for fun.



-- Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics)
        BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering)
        Alma Maters:
        (1) Singapore Polytechnic
        (2) National University of Singapore
        My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com
        My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com
        My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo
        Email: space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx>
        MSN: teoenming@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:teoenming@xxxxxxxxxxx>
        Mobile Phone (SingTel): +65-9648-9798
        Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618
        Age: 31 (as at 30 Oct 2009)
        Height: 1.78 meters
        Race: Chinese
        Dialect: Hokkien
        Street: Bedok Reservoir Road
        Country: Singapore

        2009/11/2 Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
        <space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx>>

            P55 chipset boards use the new Socket LGA1156. This socket
            supports both Core i5 and Core i7.
You should definitely get this instead of the older X58
            chipset boards which use socket LGA1366. Socket LGA1366 only
            supports Core i7, not Core i5. X58 chipset supports VT-d
            too, as do Q35, Q45, X38, and X48 which are outdated.

            Intel releases P55 after X58.



-- Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics)
            BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering)
            Alma Maters:
            (1) Singapore Polytechnic
            (2) National University of Singapore
            My Primary Blog:
            http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com
            My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com
            My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo
            Email: space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx
            <mailto:space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx>

            MSN: teoenming@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:teoenming@xxxxxxxxxxx>


            Mobile Phone (SingTel): +65-9648-9798
            Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618
            Age: 31 (as at 30 Oct 2009)
            Height: 1.78 meters
            Race: Chinese
            Dialect: Hokkien
            Street: Bedok Reservoir Road
            Country: Singapore

            2009/11/2 Velten Spägele <xen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:xen@xxxxxxxxx>>

                very interessting, but i want more than one pci classic slot



                So i was looking for more informations, and find out
                that there a low-budget iCore System without Hypermode,
                Turbo Boost and VT-d, in most for iCore5

                
http://www.pctreiber.net/news/44-prozessoren/472-ueberblick-ueber-kommende-intel-cpus-
                
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Intel-Core-i3-i5-i7-Produktbezeichungen-und-Preise-durchgesickert-750777.html

                So i'm not sure what i should do, an "old" Q45 with an
                OuadCore is nearly the same price than a iCore7 with P55
                Board.

                So i will try to find more informations about the DP55KG
                Extreme Board with vt-d, but with iCore7 it should be
                possible.



                Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) schrieb:

                
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41401334&postcount=296
                
<http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41401334&postcount=296>
                
<http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41401334&postcount=296
                
<http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41401334&postcount=296>>

                
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41401531&postcount=297
                
<http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41401531&postcount=297>
                
<http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41401531&postcount=297
                
<http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41401531&postcount=297>>

                
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41402197&postcount=298
                
<http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41402197&postcount=298>
                
<http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41402197&postcount=298
                
<http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41402197&postcount=298>>

                
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41402497&postcount=299
                
<http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41402497&postcount=299>
                
<http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41402497&postcount=299
                
<http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=41402497&postcount=299>>



-- Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics)
                BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering)
                Alma Maters:
                (1) Singapore Polytechnic
                (2) National University of Singapore
                My Primary Blog:
                http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com
                My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com
                My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo

                Email: space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx
                <mailto:space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx>
                <mailto:space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx
                <mailto:space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx>>
                MSN: teoenming@xxxxxxxxxxx
                <mailto:teoenming@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                <mailto:teoenming@xxxxxxxxxxx
                <mailto:teoenming@xxxxxxxxxxx>>


                Mobile Phone (SingTel): +65-9648-9798
                Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618
                Age: 31 (as at 30 Oct 2009)
                Height: 1.78 meters
                Race: Chinese
                Dialect: Hokkien
                Street: Bedok Reservoir Road
                Country: Singapore

                2009/11/2 Robert Dunkley <Robert@xxxxxxxxx
                <mailto:Robert@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:Robert@xxxxxxxxx
                <mailto:Robert@xxxxxxxxx>>>



                   Hi Velten,

                   VT-d support is not mentioned in the tech spec for
                the dp55kg so I
                   would not risk it unless some one here has tried it
                and knows it works.

                   Server equivalent like one of these would be a better
                choice (They
                   specifically support VT-d):
http://www.intel.com/Products/Server/Motherboards/S3420GP/S3420GP-overview.htm

                   Rob

                   -----Original Message-----
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                   <mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                <mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>] On
                Behalf Of Velten
                   Spägele
                   Sent: 02 November 2009 11:34
                   To: Xen Users
                   Subject: [Xen-users] PCI Passthrough to Windows DomU
                with iCore and
                   P55chipset ?

                   would it be possible with the new p55 chipset ? the
                dp55kg looks
                   interessting



                   Christian Tramnitz schrieb:
                    > Velten Spägele wrote:
                    >> Hi,
                    >>
                    >> i want to use an old AVM ISDN PCI Card in a
                Windows DomU, is this
                    >> possible with vt-d and iommu ? What would be the
                better choise,
                   Intel
                    >> or AMD ?
                    >
                    > Afaik there are no AMD boards with an IOMMU
                capable of passing
                   through
                    > devices to an HVM guest, so Vt-d (which is an
                Intel-term) is your
                   only
                    > choice for now.
                    > Supported (or better "working", since almost no
                vendor gives official
                    > VT-d support with Xen) boards can be found here:
                    > http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/VTdHowTo
                    >
                    > Best regards,
                    >    Christian
                    >
                    >
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