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Re: [Xen-users] Looking for Xen success stories in a production data cen

To: Joe Armstrong <Joe.Armstrong@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Looking for Xen success stories in a production data center environment
From: Peter Booth <peter_booth@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:47:57 -0400
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QqpI have real production data, some ppsitive, some negative. What is your context?

Are you talking about web app or batch?
Are you most concerned about throughput or respense time?
Are you concerned with self-managed or VPS/cloud environments?

The near-native observations you made don't tell the whole story. My experience is that most production applications are built and deployed in unoptimized states such that over-resourcing is the norm. A cost that's unique to virtualization is the erratic latencies due to hypervisor scheduling algorithm. In one example a rails app with consistent response times of 400ms native showed response times of 400msec to 3sec virtualized, depending on %steal values. There are a couple of recent papers reporting similar data.

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On May 11, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Joe Armstrong <Joe.Armstrong@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:




Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:


Hopefully someone can come up with benchmarks/numbers.

You could always run your own benchmarks? :-)



Yes - I did that first thing... and got number for both disk and network
I/O to within 1 or 2 % of native... nice.

But, my little setup is not even close to a "real data center" setup, and no way I can get stability data in a few days of running small tests. I was hoping somebody (Oh, I don't know, maybe from Amazon...) would cough up some really good data on stability & I/O performance. Or maybe somebody out there would know where to find it. I'm looking but not a lot of luck so
far.  But if I find some I'll post it.

Thanks.

Joe
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