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RE: [Xen-users] asus P5B Delux not booting xen (ACPI problem?)

To: "Chris Fanning" <christopher.fanning@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] asus P5B Delux not booting xen (ACPI problem?)
From: "Petersson, Mats" <Mats.Petersson@xxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:00:11 +0200
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Fanning [mailto:christopher.fanning@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 22 June 2007 12:42
> To: Petersson, Mats
> Cc: Peter Braun; Xen users mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] asus P5B Delux not booting xen (ACPI 
> problem?)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > > After Steve mentioned the 2.6.19 kernel, I had a look around and
> > > discovered that ubuntu packs 2.6.19-4 in the xen package.
> > > So I did an ubuntu installation and installed their xen package.
> > >
> > > Same sort of results.
> > > Sometimes it boot, sometimes it doesn''t. And the boot 
> process doesn't
> > > always freeze at the same place either.
> > >
> > > I'm begining to think I've got faulty hardware.
> >
> > Yes, that's what I've been thinking. Or you've got a buggy 
> BIOS (just
> > because there isn't a newer one doesn't mean that it's bug free!)
> >
> > Also, the fact that it's inconistent is an indication 
> towards it being a
> > hardware problem rather than software - most of the time, 
> software that
> > is reasonably well tested (e.g. 2.6.18 on Xen) is stable 
> when it comes
> > to a general setup, so if it's unstable on a particular 
> platform, then
> > it's probably because that particular platform. This is a 
> generalization
> > of course, not always true.
> 
> But, how does that explain that this machine seems to boot the vanilla
> kernels ok?

Hmm. I hadn't realized that this was the case - it makes it a bit more
suspicious that Xen is at fault, but it could simply be that the
timing/memory usage is different and causing the problem. I've seen more
than one case of complaints to AMD tech support saying that "My
processor works fine with OS A, but fails when I use OS B" (A and B
usually Windows and Linux in some combination, but also different
varieties of Windows or Linux builds). In some of these cases, it turns
out that the processor is actually faulty on a particular usage pattern.
More frequently, it's the fact that some OS's use more power than others
and thus generating more heat and needing a better heatsink/fan, or a
better power supply. 

I've seen HVM guests fail memtest86 when the entire machine running
memtest86 doesn't show any problems. 

--
Mats
> 
> Chris.
> 
> >
> > --
> > Mats
> >
> > --
> > Mats
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Chris.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/22/07, Chris Fanning <christopher.fanning@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Well, the news isn't so good.
> > > > This morning I booted the machine and it froze with
> > > > ACPI Exeption (acpi_processor_o681) :AE_NOT_FOUND,
> > > Processor Device is
> > > > not present [20060707]
> > > > ACPI Getting cpuindex for acpi 0x3
> > > >
> > > > grr.
> > > >
> > > > I hit the reset button and it gets a little further and 
> fails at:
> > > > ata1: SATA link up 3,0 Gpb (SStatus 123 Scontrol 200)
> > > > ata1: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
> > > > ata1: failed to identify (I/0 error, err_mask = 0x0104)
> > > > ata1: port is slow to resond, please be patient
> > > > ata1: failes to respond (30 secs)
> > > > ata1: COMRESET failed, device not ready
> > > > ata1: hardreset failded
> > > >
> > > > Exactly the same as it did with the xen3.1 I compiled by hand.
> > > >
> > > > So, the 2.6.18-4 kernel that comes with the debian xen
> > > package hasn't
> > > > solved the issue.
> > > >
> > > > > > It's a common problem with Xen that it doesn't support
> > > new hardware (e.g.,
> > > > > > 965 boards) very well.  This is because Xen is based on
> > > older vanilla kernel
> > > > > > versions and 965 support requires a >2.6.19 vanilla
> > > kernel or else
> > > > > > distro-specific drivers.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps I should put this machine back in its box and 
> wait for the
> > > > next xen version? :)
> > > >
> > > > Chris.
> > > >
> > > > On 6/21/07, Peter Braun <xenware@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > I got working Xen 3.1 @ Debian Etch following the
> > > howtoforge tutorial
> > > > > on P5B Deluxe and was not facing such problem. Latest
> > > Bios - 6GB RAM -
> > > > > memory remaping enabled.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you use 32bit or 64bit?
> > > > >
> > > > > In 32bit PAE w/o any problem - running both PV and FV guests.
> > > > > Everything works fine.
> > > > > In 64bit am still facing some slowdown - this problem is heavy
> > > > > discussed on internet. Looks like its problem by design
> > > of the i965.
> > > > > This slowdown only occures when more than 2GB is
> > > installed and trying
> > > > > to run under 64bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > XenExpress is running w/o problem - easy install and HVM
> > > W2k3 server
> > > > > guests are blazing fast because of PV drivers included.
> > > > >
> > > > > According to the info of Steve Brueckner:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have to disagree with you statement about Xen and i965
> > > based motherboards.
> > > > >
> > > > > Am running rock stable Gentoo 32bit Xen 3.04 with 2.6.16
> > > server based
> > > > > on Intel 965 motherboard. No stability nor speed isuess.
> > > Custom made
> > > > > dom0 kernel. SW raid, LVM, SATA is running in AHCI. Only
> > > problem was
> > > > > installation when I had to use CD-ROM connected via 
> USB - minor
> > > > > problem for me. From the install there is no need for CD-ROM
> > > > >
> > > > > I am planning next with Xen 3.1 and question is which
> > > chipset. Intel
> > > > > 965 is facing problems with 4GB and more RAM under 64bit
> > > OS in booth
> > > > > Linux and Windows. I dont have tested i3000 based server
> > > motherboard
> > > > > yet and in question comes also brand new P35 chipset. 
> Does anybody
> > > > > have some experience with them?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2007/6/21, Steve Brueckner <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > > > > It's a common problem with Xen that it doesn't support
> > > new hardware (e.g.,
> > > > > > 965 boards) very well.  This is because Xen is based on
> > > older vanilla kernel
> > > > > > versions and 965 support requires a >2.6.19 vanilla
> > > kernel or else
> > > > > > distro-specific drivers.  Furthermore, there is no easy
> > > way to upgrade the
> > > > > > Xen kernels.  I had the same problem as you, although I
> > > use Fedora instead
> > > > > > of Debian.  It's great that you're able to solve your
> > > problem using an older
> > > > > > version of Xen incorporated in Debian's packages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm just commenting in this thread to make some noise
> > > about the problem.
> > > > > > I'm hoping Xen will release a 3.1 version with a newer
> > > kernel, or else make
> > > > > > it easier for users to upgrade their own kernels.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve Brueckner, ATC-NY
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Chris Fanning [mailto:christopher.fanning@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:24 AM
> > > > > > To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [Xen-users] asus P5B Delux not booting xen
> > > (ACPI problem?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm going crazy trying to get Xen running on an ASUS
> > > P5B Delux (latest BIOS
> > > > > > installed).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tried xen-3.0.4 and xen-3.1.0 (both compiled 
> from source)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The boot process stalls with
> > > > > > ACP: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[B] -> GSI 19 (low
> > > level) -> IRQ 18
> > > > > > ahci: 0000:00:1f.2: AHCI 0001.0100 32 slots 6 ports ?
> > > Gbps 0x3f impl SATA
> > > > > > mode
> > > > > > ahci: 0000:00:1f.2: flags: 64bit ilck stag led pmp pio
> > > > > > ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xE102E900 ctl 0x0 
> bmdma 0x0 irq 18
> > > > > > ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xE102E980 ctl 0x0 
> bmdma 0x0 irq 18
> > > > > > ata1: port is slow to resond, please be patient
> > > > > > ata1: failes to respond (30 secs)
> > > > > > scsi0 :ahci
> > > > > > ata2: port is slow to resond, please be patient
> > > > > > ata2: failes to respond (30 secs)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > booting xen-3.1.0 adds some more info to the failure:
> > > > > > ata1: SATA link up 3,0 Gpb (SStatus 123 Scontrol 200)
> > > > > > ata1: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
> > > > > > ata1: failed to identify (I/0 error, err_mask = 0x0104)
> > > > > > ata1: port is slow to resond, please be patient
> > > > > > ata1: failes to respond (30 secs)
> > > > > > ata1: COMRESET failed, device not ready
> > > > > > ata1: hardreset failded
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But this doesn't always happen. 50% of the time, the
> > > process stalls for
> > > > > > about 6 secs on
> > > > > > ACP: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[B] -> GSI 19 (low
> > > level) -> IRQ 18 And then
> > > > > > continues correctly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tried passing acpi=off to the kernel but this
> > > results in ExtINT not
> > > > > > setpup in hardware but reported by MP table.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I boot this machine with vanilla debian etch,
> > > there are no problems.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > Chris.
> > > > > >
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