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Re: [Xen-users] Time/clock issues with Xen 3.0.3?

On 27 Nov 2006 at 11:24, Harald Koenig wrote:

I see the same problem here (xen-3.0.2 from SUSE 10.1):
dom0 is synched via ntpd, and the domUs drift away from dom0 and ntp server.

Harald,

use independent clocks everywhere, and it will work: "rkdvmso1" is a Dom0, every
other is a DomU somewhere:

i (and others too) do not want run ntpd in every domU. this is wasting of resources


# ntpq -p
    remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==============================================================================
LOCAL(0)        LOCAL(0)        10 l   12   64  377    0.000    0.000   0.001
*rkdvmso1.dvm.kl 132.199.176.97   2 u  987 1024  377    0.207    0.035   0.742
+rksapas01.dvm.k 192.168.0.61     3 u  997 1024  377    0.120    0.020   0.772
+rksapas02.dvm.k 192.168.0.61     3 u  992 1024  377    0.101    0.049   0.769
+rksapas03.dvm.k 192.168.0.62     3 u  995 1024  377    0.282    0.019   4.211
+rksapas04.dvm.k 192.168.0.62     3 u  997 1024  377    0.274    0.001   0.775
+rksapas05.dvm.k 192.168.0.63     3 u   78 1024  377    0.281   -0.093   0.800
+rksapas06.dvm.k 192.168.0.63     3 u  999 1024  377    0.230   -0.213   0.825
rksapas07.dvm.k .INIT.          16 u    - 1024    0    0.000    0.000 4000.00
+rksapas08.dvm.k 192.168.0.41     4 u   78 1024  377    0.243   -0.168   0.796

Ulrich



for an example how to reproduce this problem, see below...


right now I use a cron job on dom0 which re-sets the dom0 clock
via date -s `date` (ntpdate doesn't work here).


On Nov 25, Tim Post wrote:

What are the values of /proc/sys/xen/independent_wallclock
and /proc/sys/xen/permitted_clock_jitter respectively?

        os2 koenig > cat /proc/sys/xen/independent_wallclock
        0

        os2 koenig > cat /proc/sys/xen/permitted_clock_jitter
        10000000

maybe I should just set /proc/sys/xen/independent_wallclock to 1
and run ntpd on all domUs ?


now, how I was able to reproduce the domU clock due to ntp clock drift in dom0
using SUSE 10.1 xen stuff.  in this examle both xen, dom0 and domU are SUSE 10.1
and use the SUSE xen-kernel, but on my real XEN server I run may different
distributions and kernels -- all alike...


step 1: perfect clock sync with drift==0 :

run ntpd on dom0 with the following config file /etc/ntp.conf which uses
only the dom0 system clock as "source", so it doesn't adjust the clock
ever.

----------------------------- /etc/ntp.conf -----------------------------------
restrict default noquery notrust nomodify
restrict 127.0.0.1
restrict 192.168.8.0 mask 255.255.255.0
server 127.127.1.1
driftfile /var/lib/ntp/drift/ntp.drift
logfile /var/log/ntp
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

before starting ntpd, make sure the clock drift is set to zero with

        echo 0 > /var/lib/ntp/drift/ntp.drift

now start ntpd, start domU (don't run ntpd in domU) and check the domU
clock drift with

        ntpdate -d dom0

that's how it should always work (in theory;).  but in real world
the real clock drift of a PC clock is not zero. prrtty often the clock
shows a frequency error of 100 ppm and more (which is 8.64 secs per day!).


now, let's add some drift to dom0:

        /etc/init.d/ntpd stop
        echo 100 > /var/lib/ntp/drift/ntp.drift
        /etc/init.d/ntpd start


now you check the domU clock by running ntpdate on domU:

        ntpdate -d dom0 ; sleep 60 ; ntpdate -d dom0

and there will be a domU clock drift relative to dom0 or any other ntpd server
of ~6 msec per minute == 100 ppm.  qed.


hope this helps to track and fix this clock problem!

Harald Koenig
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