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RE: [Xen-users] XEN, SLES9, DELL 6800 and ORACLE experience

To: "'Nate Carlson'" <natecars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Sergey Lukashevich'" <lukash33@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] XEN, SLES9, DELL 6800 and ORACLE experience
From: "Mike Tierney" <miket@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:29:20 +1200
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nate Carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2005 2:52 p.m.
> 
> On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Sergey Lukashevich wrote:
> > Conclusion: Today XEN can not provide a platform for a few ORACLE 
> > servers. Mainly because they all must use more resources than a WEB 
> > server.
> 
> Aww, c'mon, that's not fair! Xen 3.0/"Unstable" should take care of most 
> of your functionality complaints; it supports SMP and > 4gb on X86-64. I 
> have a hunch that the network error is more a configuration issue than an 
> actual Xen problem.

Hopefully! And in the meantime if Sergey wants to run multiple Oracle
databases in separate virtual environments he could always use either
Solaris 10 x86 containers or the Linux-Vserver patch (www.linux-vserver.org)
or (some really expensive) Vmware GSX server product. All of those handle
SMP and large amounts of memory, I think.

The only problem (if it is a problem) is that AFAIK all of these approaches
are uncertified Oracle configurations and anyone using them will be running
a database with no Oracle Support. Now this may or may not be a bad thing!

SuSE SLES 10 (due for release Q1 2006?) should have Xen fully integrated
into it. It would be nice to assume that Oracle will eventually support SuSE
SLES 10 customers running Oracle *inside* Xen on SLES 10, but who knows? I
don't believe Oracle currently supports running Databases inside Solaris 10
containers (ok those are not virtual machines, but it does provide for handy
environment seperation...)

It will be very cool to one day be able to consolidate all my servers into
"one box" (including the Oracle database server) but it may well be next
year (or later!) before I'd be able to do this and still have a "certified"
configuration that meant I could log support calls with Oracle! Of course if
Oracle had less bugs in it, who would need support????? :) /wink

Cheers
Mike


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