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RE: [Xen-devel] expose MWAIT to dom0
>>> On 19.08.11 at 10:34, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> From: Jan Beulich [mailto:JBeulich@xxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:11 PM
>>
>> >>> On 19.08.11 at 03:31, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > OK, to avoid the regression, if it's really cared, then we may change Xen
>> > to support entering C-state by mwait with interrupt enabled.
>>
>> I don't think that's worth it.
>>
>> > But the next question is whether it's really worthy of enabling Xen PM
>> > such way:
>> > - I think native Linux only supports mwait with break-on-interrupt
>> > extension too. You may confirm on such machines which I think should
>> > have no C2/C3 available. It's less likely for a customer to try PM on a
>> > platform where native Linux fails to do that
>>
>> Looking at the code, I can't see why Linux wouldn't use the I/O method
>> in this case instead.
>
> acpi_processor_ffh_cstate_probe_cpu:
> /* mwait ecx extensions INTERRUPT_BREAK should be supported for
> C2/C3 */
> if (!(ecx & CPUID5_ECX_EXTENSIONS_SUPPORTED) ||
> !(ecx & CPUID5_ECX_INTERRUPT_BREAK)) {
> retval = -1;
> goto out;
> }
>
> arch_acpi_set_pdc_bits:
> /*
> * If mwait/monitor is unsupported, C2/C3_FFH will be disabled
> */
> if (!cpu_has(c, X86_FEATURE_MWAIT))
> buf[2] &= ~(ACPI_PDC_C_C2C3_FFH);
>
Right, this precludes the use of MWAIT, but it doesn't preclude using
the I/O method.
>>
>> > - using mwait with interrupt enabled lacks the trace capability,
>> > while w/o trace I don't think any customer would enable Xen PM w/o a
>> > verification process.
>> >
>> > Another approach, if we really want to keep original I/O style, is to
>> > reveal Xen's mwait related conditions in shared info page, say a simple
>> > flag to indicate whether mwait bit should be set by pvops cpuid hook.
>> > Xen will check mwait extension earlier before dom0 is launched, instead
>> > of current point where dom0 registers cx info. This way there's no Xen
>> > implementation detail encoded in dom0, while concerned regression
>> > could be removed.
>>
>> The concept sounds reasonable, just that the shared info page probably
>> isn't the right mechanism (after all this is Dom0-only information that
>> we want to expose). A new platform sub-hypercall would probably be
>> the better route.
>>
>
> yes, that's a better choice.
Yet another idea - why don't we simply pass the buffer passed to
arch_acpi_set_pdc_bits() down to Xen, rather than fiddling with the
bits in Dom0? That would at once allow to not set ACPI_PDC_T_FFH
(which I don't think Xen really supports at present).
Or really, depending on who controls what, the P, C, and T bits should
be set by either Dom0 or Xen (so e.g. let Dom0 do what it currently
does, and then let Xen override the bits it ought to control).
Jan
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