On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 10:26 +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>> On 14.09.10 at 11:12, Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 15:38 +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> >>> On 13.09.10 at 16:14, Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > Which tree are you intending for this (and the other kernel patches you
> >> > sent recently) to be applied to?
> >>
> >> Oh, right, for this one it isn't obvious from the paths. They're all for
> >> the 2.6.18 one, in an attempt to at least avoid carrying patches of
> >> our own where they can easily be made apply to what we derive
> >> our tree from.
> >
> > Ah, I hadn't realised anyone still cared about updating the 2.6.18-xen
> > tree so it didn't occur to me.
>
> How would we (and even you) not care? There's now newer tree
> available that can serve as an input (in some cases we can pull
> fixes from the pv-ops tree, but that's not the normal case). Even
> your XCP tree (indirectly) depends on the 2.6.18 one, as you
> derive it from ours (and hence we can't reasonably use it as a
> replacement source).
Yes, I hadn't considered this until now, I see the dilemma.
I don't think any one really wants to perpetuate the classic-Xen port
any further by creating a new upstream linux-2.6.32-xen.hg (although I
suppose we could if there was demand) so stashing patches like this in
the linux-2.6.18-xen.hg tree makes sense.
> With pv-ops continuing to be (somewhat?)
> experimental, I have always been wishing we could get to a point
> where we'd have a more modern baseline tree, but I don't really
> have any hope for such.
>
> Nor can I foresee when the pv-ops tree will be reliable enough
> and sufficiently functionally complete (without hacks that in
> some cases I think are worse than those in the 2.6.18 tree) to
> be used as the basis of an enterprise Dom0 (which is the
> criteria that could make us finally do the long hoped for switch).
I guess there is a certain amount of chicken and egg there and I also
suppose nobody really wants to be the guinea pig ;-)
FWIW I hope that XCP can make the switch before too long and that
XenServer will be able to follow, perhaps in the next major release.
Ian.
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