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Re: [Xen-devel] Is Xen support in Debian going to nowhere?

To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Is Xen support in Debian going to nowhere?
From: Martinx - ジェームズ <thiagocmartinsc@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:14:35 -0300
Cc: Xen-devel <xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Thomas Goirand <thomas@xxxxxxxxxx>
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For sure!

 I believe that this confusion and these doubts are just a phase, because of the current stage of development of Xen.

 When Linus accept the dom0 support in the mainline Linux, the Xen team focus only on the new version (paravirt_ops) and leave the old versions in the past, add the support for Xen in any distribution will be a relative trivial task.

 These rumors are normal, because people fear they will not have the Xen on Debian, but it will not happen, believe me.


On 30 March 2010 15:11, Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Excuse me but I for one have stood up several times on various Debian
threads (including the exact thread you link to) to commit to working
with/on the kernel to maintain the Xen patches and that is well known to
(and acknowledge by) the debian-kernel team.

Furthermore Bastian (one of the key debian-kernel developers) has
already added a xen flavour to the debian-kernel tree and has been
actively pulling in domain 0 patches from Jeremy's tree and reporting
issues on this list etc.

An initial version of the domain 0 patches were uploaded to Debian Sid
with 2.6.32-10 two weeks ago and fixes are queuing up for 2.6.32-11 in
the debian-kernel SVN repository.

The debian-kernel team seem happy with the commitment to long term
support for 2.6.32 both from kernel.org and xen.org and there are
developers actively working on getting stuff ready.

So, please don't doom-monger -- it helps no one. Those developers who
are interested in Xen+Debian are already working on such things without
crying about how the sky falling.


On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 18:51 +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Hi there,
> If you didn't see it, you should read the thread "Xen, Squeeze, and
> Beyond" on the debian-devel list that you may have missed:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/02/thrd2.html#00653
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/03/threads.html#00005
> This clearly shows you what I told you about the lack of support for Xen
> in Debian. What I see is that there's more a lack of communication than
> anything else.
> Debian is like no others distribution, if nobody cares doing the dirty
> work of packaging, some software can go away from the archive, simply
> because of the lack of task force. The disaster of the Lenny dom0 with
> no upstream support should be avoided at all costs, and the only way to
> do so is by having people working on Xen involved in Debian. Otherwise,
> the Debian kernel team will simply hate working on maintaining a Xen
> dom0 (which is already the case, I believe).
> Any lack of responsiveness of everyone can lead to nowhere. I feel it's
> a shame that nobody from this list stood in this thread to say that he
> will help the kernel team this time, so that the Debian kernel team can
> feel there's a real support from "upstream".
> Thomas
> P.S: Of course, everyone knows that if the patches from J. are finally
> accepted, all issues are over, but betting that this will happen before
> Squeeze is released is a very dangerous bet.
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