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RE: [Xen-devel] Xen 4.0.0 first release candidate / graphics passthru

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Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] Xen 4.0.0 first release candidate / graphics passthru
From: "Timothy J. Moore" <Timothy.Moore@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:53:42 +0000
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Thread-topic: [Xen-devel] Xen 4.0.0 first release candidate / graphics passthru
Hang-on guys there is already basic GFX passthru functionality since XEN 3.4 
(Weidong Han provided patches).

changeset 20144: http://xenbits.xensource.com/xen-unstable.hg?rev/05f3ca68f62d

You need to enable "gfx_passthru=1" in XEN config and set the 
pci=['<yourgfxcardid>'] also.

The patches allow passthrough of the Primary VGA card only and will re-execute 
the VGA BIOS within qemu (not the emulated Cirrus/Bochs BIOS).

This does seem to work for basic cards, ie Intel and some ATI but not NVIDIA 
Cards as they still need the pBAR=vBAR patches.

I have been monitoring XEN_devel for a long time and have just tried the latest 
4.0-rc2 (and manually hacked the pBAR=vBAR code in) without success .. maybe 
something else has changed to stop this working ?

Weidong Han also provided patches to allow Secondary VGA passthru which Teo En 
Ming was able to reproduce. It is a subset of these patches that are in XEN now 
but only for the Primary card and I have not seen much testing of this 
functionality on the xen-devel list.

Further development is needed but the main blocker to this whole VGA 
passthrough argument is support for FLR. In each of the above cases it seems 
that a reboot is needed to restore the VGA after stopping the associated DomU.

PCIe FLR (Function Level Reset) is in the PCIe 2.0 specification, XCI 
(xenclient) does try to implement secondary bus resets to work around this - 
but it all seems to be very vendor_specific and I have never seen my VGA card 
reset and become re-usable.

How would it work with PCI or AGP cards - if at all ?

Hope this helps set the scene and current status,m anyone have anything else to 
add ?

Cheers,
Tim


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:xen-devel-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pasi Kärkkäinen
Sent: 21 January 2010 14:24
To: Keir Fraser
Cc: Sander Eikelenboom; xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Weidong Han; Mr. Teo En 
Ming (Zhang Enming); Jean Guyader
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4.0.0 first release candidate / graphics passthru

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 04:11:52PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 02:02:10PM +0000, Keir Fraser wrote:
> > On 21/01/2010 13:03, "Weidong Han" <weidong.han@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > >>> We will rebase the patchset for both 2.6.18 and pvops dom0, and resend
> > >>> if for check in after xen 4.0.
> > >>>      
> > >> 
> > >> Is there some specific reason to not have it in now, for Xen 4.0?
> > >>   
> > > It needs some efforts to  rebase it to latest Xen. If you don't think
> > > it's too late for Xen 4.0, we can try to complete it in a few days.
> > 
> > If there is demand, then we can slip rc2 some more for it.
> > 
> 
> I think the patches should go in for rc2. Already today multiple people have 
> been asking how to run VGA passthrough with Xen :) (on #xen)
> 

.. and in general it's a pretty popular question on both xen-users mailinglist 
and on #xen.
People seem to want to use Xen VGA passthrough.

-- Pasi


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