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RE: [Xen-devel] [RFC] Scheduler work, part 1: High-level goals and inter

To: Ian Pratt <Ian.Pratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] [RFC] Scheduler work, part 1: High-level goals and interface.
From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:57:30 +0800
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>From: Ian Pratt [mailto:Ian.Pratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
>Sent: 2009年4月11日 1:16
>
>> I don't know what the performance characteristics of 
>modern-HT is, but
>> in P4-HT the throughput of a given thread was very dependent 
>on what the
>> other thread was doing. If its competing with some other arbitrary
>> domain, then its hard to make any estimates about what the throughput
>> of a given vcpu's thread is.
>
>The original Northwood P4's were fairly horrible as regards 
>performance predictability, but things got considerably better 
>with later steppings. Nehalem has some interesting features 
>that ought to make it better yet.
>
>Presenting sibling pairs to guests is probably preferable (it 
>avoids any worries about side channel crypto attacks), but I 
>certainly wouldn't restrict it to just that: server hosted 
>desktop workloads often involve large numbers of single VCPU 
>guests, and you want every logical processor available.
>
>Scaling the accounting if two threads share a core is a good 
>way of ensuring things tend toward longer term fairness.
>
>Possibly having two modes of operation would be good thing:
>
> 1. explicitly present HT to guests and gang schedule threads
>
> 2. normal free-for-all with HT aware accounting.
>
>Of course, #1 isn't optimal if guests may migrate between HT 
>and non-HT systems.
>
>

what do you mean by 'free-for-all'? 

Thanks,
Kevin
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