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[Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwork for 64-bit Xen
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[Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwork for 64-bit Xen support |
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Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxx> |
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Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:42:53 +0200 |
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* Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Ingo,
>
> This series lays the groundwork for 64-bit Xen support. It follows
> the usual pattern: a series of general cleanups and improvements,
> followed by additions and modifications needed to slide Xen in.
cool stuff :-)
> Most of the 64-bit paravirt-ops work has already been done and
> integrated for some time, so the changes are relatively minor.
>
> Interesting and potentially hazardous changes in this series are:
>
> "paravirt/x86_64: move __PAGE_OFFSET to leave a space for hypervisor"
>
> This moves __PAGE_OFFSET up by 16 GDT slots, from 0xffff810000000000
> to 0xffff880000000000. I have no general justification for this: the
> specific reason is that Xen claims the first 16 kernel GDT slots for
> itself, and we must move up the mapping to make room. In the process
> I parameterised the compile-time construction of the initial
> pagetables in head_64.S to cope with it.
This reduces native kernel max memory support from around 127 TB to
around 120 TB. We also limit the Xen hypervisor to ~7 TB of physical
memory - is that wise in the long run? Sure, current CPUs support 40
physical bits [1 TB] for now so it's all theoretical at this moment.
my guess is that CPU makers will first extend the physical lines all the
way up to 46-47 bits before they are willing to touch the logical model
and extend the virtual space beyond 48 bits (47 bits of that available
to kernel-space in practice - i.e. 128 TB).
So eventually, in a few years, we'll feel some sort of crunch when the #
of physical lines approaches the # of logical bits - just like when
32-bit felt a crunch when physical lines went to 31 and beyond.
> "x86_64: adjust mapping of physical pagetables to work with Xen"
> "x86_64: create small vmemmap mappings if PSE not available"
>
> This rearranges the construction of the physical mapping so that it
> works with Xen. This affects three aspects of the code:
> 1. It can't use pse, so it will only use pse if the processor
> supports it.
> 2. It never replaces an existing mapping, so it can just extend the
> early boot-provided mappings (either from head_64.S or the Xen domain
> builder).
> 3. It makes sure that any page is iounmapped before attaching it to the
> pagetable to avoid having writable aliases of pagetable pages.
>
> The logical structure of the code is more or less unchanged, and still
> works fine in the native case.
>
> vmemmap mapping is likewise changed.
>
> "x86_64: PSE no longer a hard requirement."
>
> Because booting under Xen doesn't set PSE, it's no longer a hard
> requirement for the kernel. PSE will be used whereever possible.
That should be fine too - and probably useful for 64-bit kmemcheck
support as well.
To further increase the symmetry between 64-bit and 32-bit, could you
please also activate the mem=nopentium switch on 64-bit to allow the
forcing of a non-PSE native 64-bit bootup? (Obviously not a good idea
normally, as it wastes 0.1% of RAM and increases PTE related CPU cache
footprint and TLB overhead, but it is useful for debugging.)
a few other risk areas:
- the vmalloc-sync changes. Are you absolutely sure that it does not
matter for performance?
- "The 32-bit early_ioremap will work equally well for 64-bit, so just
use it." Famous last words ;-)
Anyway, that's all theory - i'll try out your patchset in -tip to see
what breaks in practice ;-)
Ingo
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