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RE: [Xen-devel] Kernel printk timestamps and walltime drift

To: "Roger Cruz" <rcruz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, xen-devel <xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] Kernel printk timestamps and walltime drift
From: "Dan Magenheimer" <dan.magenheimer@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:06:06 -0600
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Hi Roger --

I'm assuming this is an hvm 32-bit 2.6.18 domain and you are
running on Xen 3.1.3 or newer?

If so, try setting clock=pit in your grub.conf file then
after boot test that it "took" with:

cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/current_clocksource

If it is pit, try your test again.

Note that there's a lot of work going on trying to fix
hvm timer problems right now.  There are many many different
cases because Linux has changed algorithms many times over
the history of 2.6.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-devel-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roger Cruz
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 12:49 PM
> To: xen-devel
> Subject: [Xen-devel] Kernel printk timestamps and walltime drift
> 
> 
>  <<Roger Cruz.vcf>> Hello fellow developers,
> 
> I ran across a curious observation this week when trying to 
> analyze the
> Debian 4.0 VM kernel's printk timestamps against walltime.  
> It looks as
> if the kernel's timestamps are running slow.
> 
> On a reference debian 4.0 VM (created from Citrix templates), 
> I ran the
> following script after booting the OS with the "time" option 
> in the grub
> boot line. 
> 
> You can see that the kernel time in the brackets (host up time in
> seconds) should have given us a difference of 3600 seconds 
> when ran over
> an hr period. I, however, got 3592.770286, a slip of  7+ 
> seconds.  I've
> ran a similar experiment and over the course of 12hrs, the kernel
> timestamps lose 97 seconds!
> 
> So unless I'm misunderstanding the printk times, the problem is either
> with the way the Linux OS converts TSC cycles to seconds not 
> being very
> accurate  OR how the hypervisor feeds the VM-ified TSC counts to the
> guest VM. 
> 
> Note that I'm sure the walltime was correct as I could monitor the
> printed walltime against an atomic clock in another window 
> and it always
> matched (within the precision of my eyes moving back and forth, of
> course).
> 
> Have any of you seen something similar or have an explanation?
> 
> grub line
> title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel xenu-2.6.18.xs4.1.0.1168.6013
> root (hd0,0)
> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-xenu-2.6.18.xs4.1.0.1168.6013 root=/dev/xvda1 ro
> time
> savedefault
> 
> #/sbin/bash
> i="0"
> while [ $i -lt 10000 ]
> do
> date -u "+secs since 1970: %s, time:%c" > /dev/kmsg
> sleep 60
> i=$[$i + 1]
> done
> 
> Reference Debian VM:
> end time 91158.761414 - start time 87565.991128 = 3592.770286.  It
> should have been 3600 seconds
> Epoch time: 1213306731 - 1213303130 = 3601 close enough to 3600.
> 
> p20deb:~# ./timetest
> [87565.991128] secs since 1970: 1213303130, time:Thu Jun 12 20:38:50
> 2008
> [87625.865258] secs since 1970: 1213303190, time:Thu Jun 12 20:39:50
> 2008
> [87685.745109] secs since 1970: 1213303250, time:Thu Jun 12 20:40:50
> 2008
> [87745.624397] secs since 1970: 1213303310, time:Thu Jun 12 20:41:50
> 2008
> [87805.504331] secs since 1970: 1213303370, time:Thu Jun 12 20:42:50
> 2008
> [87865.383613] secs since 1970: 1213303430, time:Thu Jun 12 20:43:50
> 2008
> [87925.263261] secs since 1970: 1213303490, time:Thu Jun 12 20:44:50
> 2008
> [87985.142794] secs since 1970: 1213303550, time:Thu Jun 12 20:45:50
> 2008
> [88045.022465] secs since 1970: 1213303610, time:Thu Jun 12 20:46:50
> 2008
> [88104.901993] secs since 1970: 1213303670, time:Thu Jun 12 20:47:50
> 2008
> [88164.781555] secs since 1970: 1213303730, time:Thu Jun 12 20:48:50
> 2008
> [88224.661193] secs since 1970: 1213303790, time:Thu Jun 12 20:49:50
> 2008
> [88284.540777] secs since 1970: 1213303850, time:Thu Jun 12 20:50:50
> 2008
> [88344.420448] secs since 1970: 1213303910, time:Thu Jun 12 20:51:50
> 2008
> [88404.299957] secs since 1970: 1213303970, time:Thu Jun 12 20:52:50
> 2008
> [88464.179722] secs since 1970: 1213304030, time:Thu Jun 12 20:53:50
> 2008
> [88524.059229] secs since 1970: 1213304090, time:Thu Jun 12 20:54:50
> 2008
> [88583.938799] secs since 1970: 1213304150, time:Thu Jun 12 20:55:50
> 2008
> [88643.818430] secs since 1970: 1213304210, time:Thu Jun 12 20:56:50
> 2008
> [88703.698102] secs since 1970: 1213304270, time:Thu Jun 12 20:57:50
> 2008
> [88763.577552] secs since 1970: 1213304330, time:Thu Jun 12 20:58:50
> 2008
> [88823.457180] secs since 1970: 1213304390, time:Thu Jun 12 20:59:50
> 2008
> [88883.336805] secs since 1970: 1213304450, time:Thu Jun 12 21:00:50
> 2008
> [88943.216354] secs since 1970: 1213304510, time:Thu Jun 12 21:01:50
> 2008
> [89003.095940] secs since 1970: 1213304570, time:Thu Jun 12 21:02:50
> 2008
> [89062.975550] secs since 1970: 1213304630, time:Thu Jun 12 21:03:50
> 2008
> [89122.855184] secs since 1970: 1213304690, time:Thu Jun 12 21:04:50
> 2008
> [89182.734796] secs since 1970: 1213304750, time:Thu Jun 12 21:05:50
> 2008
> [89242.614451] secs since 1970: 1213304810, time:Thu Jun 12 21:06:50
> 2008
> [89302.494083] secs since 1970: 1213304870, time:Thu Jun 12 21:07:50
> 2008
> [89362.373748] secs since 1970: 1213304930, time:Thu Jun 12 21:08:50
> 2008
> [89422.253149] secs since 1970: 1213304990, time:Thu Jun 12 21:09:50
> 2008
> [89482.132723] secs since 1970: 1213305050, time:Thu Jun 12 21:10:50
> 2008
> [89542.012413] secs since 1970: 1213305110, time:Thu Jun 12 21:11:50
> 2008
> [89601.892321] secs since 1970: 1213305171, time:Thu Jun 12 21:12:51
> 2008
> [89661.771534] secs since 1970: 1213305231, time:Thu Jun 12 21:13:51
> 2008
> [89721.651093] secs since 1970: 1213305291, time:Thu Jun 12 21:14:51
> 2008
> [89781.530707] secs since 1970: 1213305351, time:Thu Jun 12 21:15:51
> 2008
> [89841.410355] secs since 1970: 1213305411, time:Thu Jun 12 21:16:51
> 2008
> [89901.289916] secs since 1970: 1213305471, time:Thu Jun 12 21:17:51
> 2008
> [89961.169452] secs since 1970: 1213305531, time:Thu Jun 12 21:18:51
> 2008
> [90021.049277] secs since 1970: 1213305591, time:Thu Jun 12 21:19:51
> 2008
> [90080.928731] secs since 1970: 1213305651, time:Thu Jun 12 21:20:51
> 2008
> [90140.808362] secs since 1970: 1213305711, time:Thu Jun 12 21:21:51
> 2008
> [90200.687903] secs since 1970: 1213305771, time:Thu Jun 12 21:22:51
> 2008
> [90260.567678] secs since 1970: 1213305831, time:Thu Jun 12 21:23:51
> 2008
> [90320.447062] secs since 1970: 1213305891, time:Thu Jun 12 21:24:51
> 2008
> [90380.326679] secs since 1970: 1213305951, time:Thu Jun 12 21:25:51
> 2008
> [90440.206252] secs since 1970: 1213306011, time:Thu Jun 12 21:26:51
> 2008
> [90500.085917] secs since 1970: 1213306071, time:Thu Jun 12 21:27:51
> 2008
> [90559.965484] secs since 1970: 1213306131, time:Thu Jun 12 21:28:51
> 2008
> [90619.845052] secs since 1970: 1213306191, time:Thu Jun 12 21:29:51
> 2008
> [90679.724900] secs since 1970: 1213306251, time:Thu Jun 12 21:30:51
> 2008
> [90739.604366] secs since 1970: 1213306311, time:Thu Jun 12 21:31:51
> 2008
> [90799.483803] secs since 1970: 1213306371, time:Thu Jun 12 21:32:51
> 2008
> [90859.363649] secs since 1970: 1213306431, time:Thu Jun 12 21:33:51
> 2008
> [90919.243037] secs since 1970: 1213306491, time:Thu Jun 12 21:34:51
> 2008
> [90979.122646] secs since 1970: 1213306551, time:Thu Jun 12 21:35:51
> 2008
> [91039.002174] secs since 1970: 1213306611, time:Thu Jun 12 21:36:51
> 2008
> [91098.881855] secs since 1970: 1213306671, time:Thu Jun 12 21:37:51
> 2008
> [91158.761414] secs since 1970: 1213306731, time:Thu Jun 12 21:38:51
> 2008
> 
> 
> Roger Cruz
> Principal SW Engineer
> Marathon Technologies Corp.
> 978-489-1153
> 
> 
>


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