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[Xen-devel] Re: Regarding Xen security....
David Pilger wrote:
Search for "HVM rootkits",
The vast majority of this is, as Keith Adams put its, "quasi-illiterate
gibberish."
http://x86vmm.blogspot.com/2006/08/blue-pill-is-quasi-illiterate.html
Having VT/SVM doesn't really change anything wrt rootkits. Most of what
is floating around is FUD. There's nothing you can do today that you
couldn't do before VT/SVM.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
if your system runs without a hypervisor
and VMX/SVM is enabled in the BIOS then an attacker can gain control
over that layer. But he'll first need to gain control over the
operating system (not so difficult) in order to execute a program with
high privileges. In "VMX root operation" you have total control over
the system (parallel to ring0, one year ago).
VT-x is intended to provide another ring of security (priviliges),
which lets hypervisors manage unmodified operating systems.
Right now, if you are not running a hypervisor than it's not secure to
enable VT-x in the BIOS, if you do use some kind of hypervisor, then
the threat is that an attacker will find a security hole in it and
take control over that layer. Right now, there aren't any known
vulnerabilities in software the manage VMX. But I guess that the focus
of malicious people is not exactly at hypervisors. When LaGrande (for
instance) will be a part of any computer, then it will be "benefitial"
to search for vulnerabilities in this layer.
In summary, there is a risk when no hypervisor occupies the VMX layer
and it is enabled in the BIOS. The only use of this layer by a
malicious program is for properly hiding itself from removal tools.
Any way, here are some insights:
* If operating systems were secure enough and properly programmed then
VMX was not needed in this regard (to provide security).
* The implementation of VMX is here to take the control of the machine
from a certain operating system, treating an OS just like a "process".
* Its useful for servers that runs virtual machines, this is trivial
use of a hypervisors.
David.
On 1/12/07, Praveen Kushwaha <praveen.kushwaha@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Sir,
I have a question regarding the security of Xen. What are
the
security threats in with Intel VT-x.
Thanks,
Praveen Kushwaha
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