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Re: [Xen-devel] Individual passwords for guest VNC servers ?

To: Masami Watanabe <masami.watanabe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Individual passwords for guest VNC servers ?
From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:12:46 +0100
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On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 09:04:38PM +0900, Masami Watanabe wrote:
> Specification:
>   - This is only for HVM domain.

No problem, looks easily adaptable for the paravirt FB code when that is
finally ready for merge.

>   - xend-config.sxp (for system-wide) and VM configuration files (for
>     VM-specific) can have a VNC password description.
>   - A HVM domain bringing up VNC console needs at least one password
>     description ether in xend-config.sxp or its VM configuration file.
>   - A VM-specific password takes effect if both system-wide and
>     VM-specific passwords exist.
>   - Password descriptions look like the following.  An empty string for
>     vncpassword means no authentication.
>         VM configuration file:  vncpasswd = 'string'
>         xend-config.sxp      : (vncpasswd   'string')
>   - A password has to be encoded in base64 format.  For example, you can
>     obtain one by executing the next command.
>         # cat ~/.vnc/passwd | uuencode -m passwd | head -2 | tail -1
> 
> Configuration examples:
>   - No password authentication for all VNC consoles.
>         --- xend-config.sxp ---
>         (vncpasswd  '')
>         -----------------------
> 
>   - Single common password for all VNC consoles.
>         --- xend-config.sxp ---
>         (vncpasswd 'PASSWORD')
>         -----------------------
> 
>   - VM-specific password for vm1.
>         --- vm1 config --------
>         vncpasswd = "PASSWORD for vm1"
>         -----------------------
> 
> Notes and request:
>  - On log file permissions.
>    Please mind logfile permissons since password are recorded in
>    xend and qemu-dm logfiles, though they are not decoded.

It seems the password is also trivially viewable by running 

 ps -axuwwf | grep qemu-dm

Sure its obfuscated, but that's easily reversable to get the actual
password.

Passing around passwords either on the command line, or environment is a
big red flag from a security POV. Also the Xen guest & xend config files
all default to world readable. I think we should follow the Apache model
and store the passwords out-of-band from the main config. eg
  
   (vncpasswordfile '/etc/xen/vncpassword')

At this point it would make sense to have one password file for all guests,
and store them in format:  'vm-name:  pw-hash'

As Ian just suggested we could have command 'xm password'  for updating
these passwords (cf apache's  htpasswd command)

Now when launching qemu-dm, we can either pass the path to the password
file on its command line,   eg  -passwordfile /etc/xen/password, or 
passs the actual password to qemu-dm down a pipe (eg qemu-dm would read
the password from filehandle 3 upon startup). The latter would be my
preference, since then we could isolate the password handling stuff in
Xend, and not duplicate it in qemu-dm, and the paravirt  equivalent.


Regards,
Dan.
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