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Re: [Xen-devel] Xen and VMware

To: "Ronald G. Minnich" <rminnich@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Xen and VMware
From: "B.G. Bruce" <bgb@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:32:46 -0400
Cc: Steven Hand <Steven.Hand@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jacob Gorm Hansen <jacobg@xxxxxxx>, Tom Hibbert <tom@xxxxxxxxx>, Tim Freeman <tfreeman@xxxxxxxxxxx>, xen-devel <xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Actually, the biggest appeal of vmware is being able to run windows in a
vm.  Most organizations don't really care what is underlying, but it's
the ability to snapshot and restore a virtual machine to a known working
condition (particularly with windows) that appeals.  The faster this
restore happens, the better.  They want the ability to immediately back
out a hotfix or service pack (or any other software upgrade or config.
change) that is causing issues and know that "ALL" traces of the
offending change have been removed - immediately.  No fussing around
with regedit or dll version skew.  This is especially true with terminal
servers.  If you have your corporate desktop sitting on a terminal
server (say 250-500) users and someone infects the box with a virus or
spyware, the faster you can get the box back to a pristine working
condition, the more of a hero you look.  It's the same reason large
corporations look to ghost for their desktop builds.  


On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 11:51, Ronald G. Minnich wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Steven Hand wrote:
> 
> > That said, they may be solving the /wrong/ problem. 
> 
> I'm not so sure that is correct. I've talked to people in the commercial 
> world and learned some interesting things. A big use of vmware and citrix 
> is to run windows under windows. Why? Because nobody trusts windows or 
> windows users. They run citrix (and I guess vmware in other places) 4 or 5 
> instances at a time under NT server and use KVMs. This one person I talked 
> to ran thousands of desktops this way.
> 
> I'm guessing based on some of my conversations that the big end use of 
> vmware is windows under windows. But I could be totally wrong. 
> 
> ron
> 
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