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RE: [Xen-users] XCP which management console to use - plus XenServerques

To: "Mike McClurg" <mike.mcclurg@xxxxxxxxxx>, József Dániel <daniel.jozsef@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] XCP which management console to use - plus XenServerquestion
From: "Brett Westover" <bwestover@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:16:52 -0700
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Thread-topic: [Xen-users] XCP which management console to use - plus XenServerquestion
I've also noticed with XenCenter and XCP that the performance tab doesn't 
function. Also snapshots don't work through XenCenter.

I found one reference on the license issue from the Xen forums (don't have it 
handy now), but they stated that it shows unlicensed because of the version 
incompatibility, but it won't actually expire. If you can put up with message 
popping up periodically, then it’s mostly a working solution.

I found that snapshots and performance work through OpenXenManager, but I have 
to restart the program a lot. It freezes up, or shows errors sometimes. Mostly 
it just stops 'refreshing' though. The tabs or individual screens will come up, 
but they show the data from the previous host or VM. A restart of the program 
starts it working for a little while again.

Mostly I'm using a combination of XenCenter for Start/Stop, mounting ISOs and 
VNC and the XE command line for snapshots and storage management.

Brett Westover

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[mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike McClurg
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To: József Dániel
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Subject: Re: [Xen-users] XCP which management console to use - plus 
XenServerquestion

On 09/14/2011 01:50 PM, József Dániel wrote:
> Well I guess that comparison says enough. Given that and the fact that
> XenServer won't work, I'll stick with XCP. :)
Good, glad to hear it ;)
> For the time being, I found a way to disable the expiration nagging in
> XenCenter, so I'll be using that. (Upload a XenServer eval license to
> XCP seems to be a tested and working solution.)
While annoying, this message is benign and you can safely ignore it. 
When XCP 1.1 final comes out, there will be a "xapi version override" 
file that will let you tell XCP to pretend that it's XenServer (it's a 
terrible hack, but it fixes the problem).
> Running a Xen VM management tool on Windows running in a VirtualBox VM
> running under OSX. How convoluted is that? VMception. :P
If you'd prefer something else that (should) run on OSX, try 
OpenXenManager (http://sourceforge.net/projects/openxenmanager/) a free 
clone of XenCenter written in Python. It's not as polished as XenCenter, 
but it does the job.
> Anyway, there was some talk before that XenCenter sees XCP as an
> outdated version of XenServer (XenServer 1.0). Seeing how Xen lists
> XCP as XenCenter compatible, I was wondering if this has already been
> fixed?
>
It was a design decision to give XCP different versions than XenServer. 
There are quite a few places in XenCenter where it checks for hard-coded 
version numbers to see if it's talking to a version of XenServer that 
supports certain features. It's a low priority for the XenCenter team to 
change this, and other than faking that XCP is XenServer, there's not 
much to do on the XCP side.

Mike

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