Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4 TSC problems

[Keir Fraser <keir.xen@xxxxxxxxx>]

The message about detecting wrapped platform timer on Xen console indicates
a host problem rather than a guest configuration problem. Did you try
running long term with changed platform timer source on Xen command line
(clocksource=pit), and also cpuidle=0?

 K.

On 28/02/2011 14:37, "Olivier Hanesse" <olivier.hanesse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> It happened again twice this weekend.
> 
> What about setting "tsc_mode=2" for my vms ? Should this mode prevent this bug
> (coming from a bad emulated tsc due to firmware issue ? is it possible ?) from
> affecting time in domUs ?
> 
> Setting clocksource=pit, make 'tsc' available in
> "/sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/available_clocksource"
> (otherwise only xen is available, is it normal ? ). 
> 
> Should I bypass xen clocksource and use tsc as a clocksource for dom0/domU ?
> or  will it be worsed ?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Olivier
> 
> 2011/2/24 Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@xxxxxxxx>
>> On 02/24/2011 09:43 AM, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
>>> Just a wild guess, but this in Olivier's posted output:
>>> 
>>> (XEN) Platform timer appears to have unexpectedly wrapped 10 or more times.
>>> 
>>> and the fact that a 32-bit HPET wrap is ~300 seconds and, with the
>>> "10 or more times", 10 * 300 seconds is 3000 seconds, might be a clue
>>> (or a complete red herring, but I thought it worth mentioning).
>>> 
>>> Mark and Olivier, it would be interesting to know if you are
>>> using the same processor/system.
>> 
>> It definitely seems like some kind of problem on the host system rather
>> than anything in the guests themselves.  If the platform timer is
>> misbehaving, then Xen could be completely screwing up the pvclock
>> calibration which it then passes to guests.
>> 
>> Could it be one of those "platform clock stops in certain power states"
>> problems?
>> 
>>     J
>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Keir Fraser [mailto:keir.xen@xxxxxxxxx]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 7:52 AM
>>>> To: Olivier Hanesse; Jan Beulich
>>>> Cc: Mark Adams; Jeremy Fitzhardinge; xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Xen
>>>> Users; Dan Magenheimer; Keir Fraser
>>>> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4 TSC problems
>>>> 
>>>> On 24/02/2011 14:20, "Olivier Hanesse" <olivier.hanesse@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Both dom0 and domUs are affected by this" jump".
>>>>> 
>>>>> I expect to see something like "TSC marked as reliable, warp = 0".
>>>>> I got this on newer hardware with same config/distros.
>>>> It depends on the CPU itself, older CPUs do not have the super-stable
>>>> TSC
>>>> features. But that should never cause a massive 3000s time jump.
>>>> 
>>>>> Is there a way to measure if it is a TSC warp ? to point out a cpu
>>>> tsc issue ?
>>>> 
>>>> The TSC warps or out-of-sync issues that we could reasonably expect
>>>> would be
>>>> on the order of microseconds. A 3000s warp is something else entirely.
>>>> Xen
>>>> is very confused and/or some TSC or platform timer has jumped a long
>>>> way
>>>> (indicating a hardware/firmware issue).
>>>> 
>>>>  -- Keir
>>>> 
>>>>> 2011/2/24 Jan Beulich <JBeulich@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> On 24.02.11 at 12:57, Olivier Hanesse <olivier.hanesse@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I tried to turn off cstates with max_cstate=0 without success
>>>> (still "not
>>>>>>> reliable").
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With cpuidle=0, I also got :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (XEN) TSC has constant rate, deep Cstates possible, so not
>>>> reliable,
>>>>>>> warp=3022 (count=1)
>>>>>> This message by itself isn't telling much I believe.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> xm info | grep command
>>>>>>> xen_commandline        : dom0_mem=512M cpuidle=0 loglvl=all
>>>> guest_loglvl=all
>>>>>>> dom0_max_vcpus=1 dom0_vcpus_pin console=vga,com1 com1=19200,8n1
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Keir :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Using clocksource=pit :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (XEN) Platform timer is 1.193MHz PIT
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I also got :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (XEN) TSC has constant rate, deep Cstates possible, so not
>>>> reliable,
>>>>>>> warp=3262 (count=2)
>>>>>> The question is whether any of this eliminates the time jumps seen
>>>>>> by your DomU-s (from your past mails I wasn't actually sure whether
>>>>>> Dom0 also experienced this problem, albeit it would be odd if it
>>>> didn't).
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
> 
> 



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