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Re: Re: [Xen-users] ionice

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Subject: Re: Re: [Xen-users] ionice
From: Matej Zary <matej.zary@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 01:47:48 +0200
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On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 22:47 +0200, Bart Coninckx wrote:
> On Sunday 04 July 2010 22:44:21 Jonathan Tripathy wrote:
> > On 04/07/10 21:16, Bart Coninckx wrote:
> > > On Sunday 04 July 2010 00:28:59 Jonathan Tripathy wrote:
> > >>> My problem is that I see high volume requests from some people with
> > >>> little time in between the requests and about matters getting more and
> > >>> more away from the subject at hand, which more than likely points to
> > >>> people not taking the time to look for answers themselves on the
> > >>> internet but choosing the easy path of free advice on a mailing list.
> > >>> This community is about helping each other out after having done the
> > >>> necessary research oneself.  At least that's how I see it. Mind you,
> > >>> I'm at risk stating this, because I frequently am scratching my head in
> > >>> the face of nasty problems and challenges with tight deadlines, but I
> > >>> try to self reliant to the max and only if I'm at the end of my wits, I
> > >>> will consult the list.
> > >>>
> > >>> No chill pills needed.
> > >>
> > >> FYI, I started a new topic as I had already discovered how to use solve
> > >> my ionice problem (I used dstat). Which is why I then moved onto how to
> > >> "prioritise" the DomU regarding disk usage, and I know that a lot of
> > >> people on this list do that for their customers. I actually did do my
> > >> own research, and in fact I will point you to an excellent PDF (which is
> > >> taken from the book I'm currently reading):
> > >> http://nostarch.com/download/xen_ch7.pdf (Page 11).
> > >>
> > >> Please don't jump to the conclusion that I havn't done my own research,
> > >> because I have.
> > >
> > > Jonathan,
> > >
> > > how would you rate the book you are referring to? I just ordered
> > > "Virtualization with Xen" but I find it basically crap with way too
> > > little practical info.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > >
> > > B.
> > 
> > Hi Bart,
> > 
> > I havn't finished reading it yet, but so far I find it that it's a very
> > good book at covering the basics. It starts off with a bit of background
> > in Virtualisation in general, then heads into Xen. I think it's an
> > excellent books, and it will definitely help anyone get started. There
> > is also an excellent section on hosting for customers at well, however
> > thinking outside the box is required in that section.
> > 
> > I'll follow up again once I've finished reading it
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> 
> Hmmm, I'm actually looking more for a book that will look more at the 
> advanced 
> topics, like using Xen in clustering environments and doing P2V for Windows 
> etc.
> 
> Maybe I'll just d/l the eBook.
> 
> B.

Well, that's something I haven't found in any Xen book - have to say, I
didn't read line after line, but my general impression was that most of
the available books covers pretty much the same topics - great for
beginner,  in case of better Xen book nice for more skilled xen user (to
find out how the stuff really works and what's possible) but for the
"PRO" users there's not that much...problem is, that Xen is evolving
fast and books are always 1-2 late (at the best) and that Xen
environment is different in every distribution (and they are evolving
even faster than Xen in many cases). :)

Regards

Matej

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