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Re: [Xen-users] HP Proliant DL145g3, xen-3.1.0 and SVM
official word from hp is that "hp has intentially left amd-v disabled
on the dl145 in order to maintain its status as a low-end system".
apparently, the dl145g5 will have amd-v enabled in the future.
however, in other words some marketing VP at HP made a decision that if
you really want HVM you can't buy a dl145 and have to spend more on a
dl3xx. there's not lot of reason for it -- i can understand not having
the backup BIOS and online flash and other 'enterprise' features on the
dl145 since that really translates to cost savings -- but they're just
disabling the bit in the BIOS and not letting you have HVM...
i don't understand the suicidal behavior of marketing departments. i'm
really not that dumb and can see right though this.
at least HP does this much less often than Dell does...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Lamont Granquist wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008, Stephan Seitz wrote:
(XEN) AMD SVM Extension is disabled in BIOS.
I went through the trouble of commenting out the check in the xen kernel
for the bios disable flag and basically lie to xen and it panics
horribly on boot.
As expected. You can't paint a traffic light green and expect not to crash
;)
I've also flashed the bios to the latest version from the hp site as of
today and gone through it hunting for anything to do with
virtualization, but can't find an option there. I've also had someone
else look for the option and he failed to find it as well.
At this point have I conclusively determined that the problem lies in
HP's BIOS and not having anything to do with Xen?
I don't know how the bios of this particular proliant model is setup, but
an all recent x86 platforms i've seen so long, there is the need of
turning
on svm (amd) or vmx (intel) at the bios. I've never had problems with
supermicro or tyan, but there have been discussions on the list which
generally shows that if there's no bios option, there's no svm/vmx at all.
There were some previous discussions I found which seemed to be claiming that
SVM always worked and that you didn't need a BIOS option and that if it
showed up /proc/cpuinfo it should just work. Hence, my test of painting the
traffic light green to see if the cars would just magically avoid each other
or not...
Clearly, for both SVM and VMX the BIOS needs to support HVM and there should
be a switch in the BIOS to enable/disable it. And the DL145g3 BIOS does not
support SVM/HVM at this time.
I've got a request into our vendor to pester HP about this issue and try to
see if HP might have an internal beta BIOS which enables SVM...
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