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RE: [Xen-users] Re: dual boot windows

To: "Ishaaq Chandy" <ishaaq@xxxxxxxxx>, xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Re: dual boot windows
From: "Petersson, Mats" <Mats.Petersson@xxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:48:02 +0200
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Thread-topic: [Xen-users] Re: dual boot windows
As long as you have ONE legal license, you should be OK changing the
configuration any number of times you like - I used to work for a
graphics card company, and we'd frequently change the config of our
test-machines such that Windows requires an call to MS - but it's no big
deal [aside from being somewhat time-consuming, but usually over in
about 5 minutes once you've figured out what the NEW telephone number
is]. Of course, if you haven't got a legal license in the first place,
you're a bit stuck if you do these sort of things... ;-)

As far as I understand, as long as your installation is on the same
machine and can't be used simultaneously, you should be allowed to use
the same copy of Windows twice on the same machine on different
partitions [or two different variants of HW config for the same
machine]. 

Jon's suggestion to  use multiple hardware profiles makes sense tho'.
That's definitely going to help the system not get confused when you
switch from one config to another... 

--
Mats

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> Ishaaq Chandy
> Sent: 11 August 2006 10:41
> To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Re: dual boot windows
> 
> 
> Thanks  Jon,
> I think I will give it a go - since it is a new machine it 
> won't have any
> data to potentially destroy, so the risk is fairly low.
> 
> So did the Windows activation thingie annoy you each time you 
> switched from
> native to virtual and vice-versa? I don't run the risk of 
> locking it out and
> requiring a phonecall to Microsoft?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ishaaq
> 
> 
> Jonathan Ervine wrote:
> > 
> > On Thursday 10 August 2006 17:17, Ishaaq Chandy wrote:
> >> Umm, any clues on this one?
> >>
> >> Ishaaq
> >>
> >> On 10/08/06, Ishaaq Chandy <ishaaq@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > Hi guys,
> >> > I'm new to Xen - in fact I haven't installed it yet - 
> wanted to find
> >> out
> >> > a bit more before I test the waters.
> >> >
> >> > Here's what I want to do:
> >> >
> >> > 1. I'm getting a new Intel Core duo laptop within a 
> couple of days. I
> >> > believe the core duo chips have Vanderpool technology so 
> it shouldn't
> >> be
> >> > a problem getting Xen to run windows unmodified - is 
> this correct?
> > 
> > If the chips have the Intel Vanderpool extensions then, 
> yes, you should be 
> > able to run Windows XP under hardware assisted 
> virtualisation with XEN.
> > 
> >> > 2. I need to install WIndows normally on the hard-drive. 
> In fact, it
> >> > comes pre-installed by the manufacturer, but I don't 
> mind blowing it
> >> away
> >> > and reinstalling it from scratch if I need to. I plan to run this
> >> > installation normally at times when I need to run 
> hardware intensive
> >> > software - aka 3D games :)
> > 
> > You'll probably want to blow it away so that you can get 
> the partitions
> > set up 
> > correctly. Once you've both WinXP and Ubuntu installed 
> you'll configure
> > XEN 
> > to use a physical partition to load Windows.
> > 
> >> > 3. I plan to dual boot to a linux installation (Ubuntu??). This
> >> > installation will have Xen installed in it. From here I 
> hope to be able
> >> > to load up the Windows installation mentioned in point 2 
> above when I
> >> > need to. Is this possible? Or do I need to (I am hoping 
> to avoid this)
> >> > install a second Windows installation (and get the 
> required licenses)
> >> > from within Xen?
> > 
> > I've previously done something very similar with VMware - 
> loading Windows
> > from 
> > a raw partition. It did work, however I needed to create a separate
> > hardware 
> > profile in Windows - one physical, one virtual. Remember 
> that when loading 
> > with XEN the hardware *will* appear to change to the 
> Windows installation. 
> > This will trigger the Windows Activation utility (again). 
> Within VMware, 
> > Windows was a bit unstable until it had successfully 
> redetected things
> > like 
> > IDE controllers, and PCI buses.
> > 
> > I'd suggest giving it a go but to be prepared to have 
> several goes before 
> > getting it right :-)
> > 
> > Jon
> > 
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