On 03/09/2011 11:27, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 21:26 +0100, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>> On 09/02/2011 12:17 AM, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 21:34 +0100, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>>>> On 09/01/2011 12:21 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 18:32 +0100, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/01/2011 12:42 AM, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 18:07 +0100, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 05:58:43PM +0100, David Vrabel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 26/08/11 15:44, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> So while I am still looking at the hypervisor code to figure out why
>>>>>>>>>> it would give me [when trying to map a grant page]:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (XEN) mm.c:3846:d0 Could not find L1 PTE for address fbb42000
>>>>>>>>> It is failing in guest_map_l1e() because the page for the vmalloc'd
>>>>>>>>> virtual address PTEs is not present.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The test that fails is:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (l2e_get_flags(l2e) & (_PAGE_PRESENT | _PAGE_PSE)) != _PAGE_PRESENT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think this is because the GNTTABOP_map_grant_ref hypercall is done
>>>>>>>>> when task->active_mm != &init_mm and alloc_vm_area() only adds PTEs
>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>> init_mm so when Xen looks in the page tables it doesn't find the
>>>>>>>>> entries
>>>>>>>>> because they're not there yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Putting a call to vmalloc_sync_all() after create_vm_area() and before
>>>>>>>>> the hypercall makes it work for me. Classic Xen kernels used to have
>>>>>>>>> such a call.
>>>>>>>> That sounds quite reasonable.
>>>>>>> I was wondering why upstream was missing the vmalloc_sync_all() in
>>>>>>> alloc_vm_area() since the out-of-tree kernels did have it and the
>>>>>>> function was added by us. I found this:
>>>>>>> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef691947d8a3d479e67652312783aedcf629320a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> commit ef691947d8a3d479e67652312783aedcf629320a
>>>>>>> Author: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Date: Wed Dec 1 15:45:48 2010 -0800
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> vmalloc: remove vmalloc_sync_all() from alloc_vm_area()
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's no need for it: it will get faulted into the current
>>>>>>> pagetable
>>>>>>> as needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The flaw in the reasoning here is that you cannot take a kernel fault
>>>>>>> while processing a hypercall, so hypercall arguments must have been
>>>>>>> faulted in beforehand and that is what the sync_all was for.
>>>>>> That's a good point. (Maybe Xen should have generated pagefaults when
>>>>>> hypercall arg pointers are bad...)
>>>>> I think it would be a bit tricky to do in practice, you'd either have to
>>>>> support recursive hypercalls in the middle of other hypercalls (because
>>>>> the page fault handler is surely going to want to do some) or proper
>>>>> hypercall restart (so you can fully return to guest context to handle
>>>>> the fault then retry) or something along those and complexifying up the
>>>>> hypervisor one way or another. Probably not impossible if you were
>>>>> building something form the ground up, but not trivial.
>>>> Well, Xen already has the continuation machinery for dealing with
>>>> hypercall restart, so that could be reused.
>>> That requires special support beyond just calling the continuation in
>>> each hypercall (often extending into the ABI) for pickling progress and
>>> picking it up again, only a small number of (usually long running)
>>> hypercalls have that support today. It also uses the guest context to
>>> store the state which perhaps isn't helpful if you want to return to the
>>> guest, although I suppose building a nested frame would work.
>> I guess it depends on how many hypercalls do work before touching guest
>> memory, but any hypercall should be like that anyway, or at least be
>> able to wind back work done if a later read EFAULTs.
>>
>> I was vaguely speculating about a scheme on the lines of:
>>
>> 1. In copy_to/from_user, if we touch a bad address, save it in a
>> per-vcpu "bad_guest_addr"
>> 2. when returning to the guest, if the errno is EFAULT and
>> bad_guest_addr is set, then generate a memory fault frame with cr2 =
>> bad_guest_addr, and with the exception return restarting the hypercall
>>
>> Perhaps there should be a EFAULT_RETRY error return to trigger this
>> behaviour, rather than doing it for all EFAULTs, so the faulting
>> behaviour can be added incrementally.
> The kernel uses -ERESTARTSSYS for something similar, doesn't it?
>
> Does this scheme work if the hypercall causing the exception was itself
> runnnig in an exception handler? I guess it depends on the architecture
> +OSes handling of nested faults.
>
>> Maybe this is a lost cause for x86, but perhaps its worth considering
>> for new ports?
> Certainly worth thinking about.
>
>>> The guys doing paging and sharing etc looked into this and came to the
>>> conclusion that it would be intractably difficult to do this fully --
>>> hence we now have the ability to sleep in hypercalls, which works
>>> because the pager/sharer is in a different domain/vcpu.
>> Hmm. Were they looking at injecting faults back into the guest, or
>> forwarding "missing page" events off to another domain?
> Sharing and swapping are transparent to the domain, another domain runs
> the swapper/unshare process (actually, unshare might be in the h/v
> itself, not sure).
>
>>>> And accesses to guest
>>>> memory are already special events which must be checked so that EFAULT
>>>> can be returned. If, rather than failing with EFAULT Xen set up a
>>>> pagefault exception for the guest CPU with the return set up to retry
>>>> the hypercall, it should all work...
>>>>
>>>> Of course, if the guest isn't expecting that - or its buggy - then it
>>>> could end up in an infinite loop. But maybe a flag (set a high bit in
>>>> the hypercall number?), or a feature, or something? Might be worthwhile
>>>> if it saves guests having to do something expensive (like a
>>>> vmalloc_sync_all), even if they have to also deal with old hypervisors.
>>> The vmalloc_sync_all is a pretty event even on Xen though, isn't it?
>> Looks like an important word is missing there. But its very expensive,
>> if that's what you're saying.
> Oops. "rare" was the missing word.
Is there any progress on an official patch for this? I have my own
unofficial patch which places a vmalloc_sync_all() after every
alloc_vm_area() call and it works, but from the thread it sounds like
there should be a more sophisticated solution to the problem.
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