Re: [Xen-devel] xen: memory initialization/balloon fixes (#3)

[Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@xxxxxxxx>]

On 09/22/2011 03:34 PM, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
>> I'm aware of that... "some" has been a fixed size of a few megabytes
>> in Xen for a long time.  I am seeing 30-60MB or more.
> Never mind on this part.  After further debugging, I can see
> that this difference is due to normal uses of memory by the
> kernel for XEN PAGETABLES and RAMDISK etc.  It's unfortunate
> that the difference is so large, but I guess that's in part due
> to the desire to use the same kernel binary for native and
> virtualized.  I don't remember it being nearly so high for
> older PV kernels, but I guess it's progress! :-}

I don't think the Xen parts allocate/reserves lots of memory
unnecessarily, so it shouldn't be too different from the 2.6.18-xen
kernels.  They do reserve various chunks of memory, but for things like
RAMDISK I think they get released again (and anyway, I don't think
that's going to be anywhere near 30MB, let alone 60).  I'm not very
confident in those /proc/meminfo numbers - they may count memory as
"reserved" if its in a reserved region even if the pages themselves have
been released to the kernel pool.

>>>> Part B of the problem (and the one most important to me) is that
>>>> setting /sys/devices/system/xen_memory/xen_memory0/target_kb
>>>> to X results in a MemTotal inside the domU (as observed by
>>>> "head -1 /proc/meminfo") of X-D.  This can be particularly painful
>>>> when X is aggressively small as X-D may result in OOMs.
>>>> To use kernel function/variable names (and I observed this with
>>>> some debugging code), when balloon_set_new_target(X) is called
>>>> totalram_pages gets driven to X-D.
>>> Again, this looks like the correct behavior to me.
>> Hmmm... so if a user (or automated tool) uses the Xen-defined
>> API (i.e. /sys/devices/system/xen_memory/xen_memory0/target_kb)
>> to use the Xen balloon driver to attempt to reduce memory usage
>> to 100MB, and the Xen balloon driver instead reduces it to
>> some random number somewhere between 40MB and 90MB, which
>> may or may not cause OOMs, you consider this correct behavior?
> I still think this is a bug but apparently orthogonal to
> your patchset.  So sorry to bother you.

If you ask for 100MB, it should never try to make the domain smaller
than that; if it does, it suggests the number is being misparsed or
something.

    J

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