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Re: [Xen-devel] Re: oxenstored in stubdom ?

To: Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: oxenstored in stubdom ?
From: Łukasz Oleś <lukaszoles@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:18:50 +0200
Cc: "xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Vincent Hanquez <Vincent.Hanquez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Sunday 22 August 2010 11:44:51 Keir Fraser wrote:
> On 22/08/2010 10:14, "Vincent Hanquez" <Vincent.Hanquez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> wrote:
> >>> oxenstored is already restartable (or used to be and easy to fix if it
> >>> was broken), so from a xenstore point of view, you could already
> >>> restart dom0; Obviously this would block all the domains that try to
> >>> do a xenstore query, but if the dom0 is restarted quickly enough this
> >>> shouldn't be too noticeable since a normal working domain shouldn't
> >>> use much xenstore after starting up.
> >> 
> >> So that's "very probably restartable" then? ;-)
> > 
> > well yes, "very probably" is pretty good odds i think. :p
> > 
> > more seriously, it depends from which perspective you're looking at the
> > dom0 restart problem. But according to previous experience during
> > oxenstored development, i'm pretty sure that oxenstored would cope and
> > that most of the problems are elsewhere in the stack. moving oxenstored
> > to a stubdomain is almost orthogonal (roughly 89 degrees.)
> 
> I don't think xenstored-in-stubdomain is the big barrier to dom0
> restartability, that's for sure. Personally, I don't think full dom0
> restartability, for things like seamless dom0 kernel upgrade, will ever be
> achieved. But I think particular vulnerable or critical services within
> dom0 can be made restartable.

Thanks for clarifying.

Which are these "critical services"? Is there any list of them?

--
Łukasz Oleś

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