Re: [Xen-devel] xend doesn't start with xen-staging tip (on ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04)

[Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@xxxxxx>]

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:30:37AM -0700, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
> > From: Ian Jackson [mailto:Ian.Jackson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > 
> > Dan Magenheimer writes ("RE: [Xen-devel] xend doesn't start with xen-
> > staging tip (on ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04)"):
> > > "Your networking to your Xen guests which always worked has
> > > suddenly stopped working when you've upgraded to the latest
> > > Xen bits.  You asked on xen-devel what to do to fix it
> > > and got the reply: 'You need to set up your own network
> > > to go through a bridge now'.  Do you know now exactly what
> > > trivial things you need to do?  If not, do you know exactly
> > > where to look for documentation to tell you what you need to do?"
> > 
> > People who are running production systems on xen-unstable bits need
> > more help than we can sensibly give them.
> 
> True enough.  But to clarify, we're not talking about those people;
> we're talking about *developers* updating xen-unstable bits on an
> otherwise completely stable base distro.  And we're talking about
> xen-users installing xen-unstable on their systems to see if
> it fixes a bug or adds an important feature they are waiting for.
> "Oops, networking is broke, I guess I'd better roll back"...
> which means fewer people testing and giving feedback on xen-unstable.
> 
> > As I say we'll make a song and dance about this in the 4.1 release
> > notes, announcements, etc.  Another related substantial change will be
> > the switch away from xend in the default configuration, and it makes
> > sense to make both of these changes at the same time.
> 
> Historically in Xen, "song and dance" has been more like
> "hum a bar offkey and quickly twirl around" :-)  I hope
> this change at this release is a bit more.
> 

The xen bridge setup magic has failed for *many* people, there are people
complaining about it frequently on ##xen on irc.

So imho it's good to get it fixed, even by removing the code :)

-- Pasi


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