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[Xen-users] Re: Merge Xen (the hypervisor) into Linux
 
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[Xen-users] Re: Merge Xen (the hypervisor) into Linux | 
 
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On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:31:13 -0600
"Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
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> > A lot of Xen legacies could be dropped: the crazy ring1 hack on 
> > 32-bit, the various wide interfaces to make pure-software 
> > virtualization limp along. All major CPUs shipped with hardware 
> > virtualization support in the past 2-3 years, so the availability of 
> > VMX and SVM can be taken for granted for such a project.
> 
> That's a pretty bold statement.  I have five x86 machines in my house
> currently being used, and none of them support VMX/SVM.
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> At least some Lenovo laptops disable VMX in the BIOS with no way to
> enable it.  Some of the Core2Duo chips don't support VMX at all.
Ditto some Atom cpus which in turn means you can't run kvm on all the
netbooks right now - which is one place its very useful.
> I think Xen without paravirtualization would be a serious degradation of
> usefulness.
At that point you can just use kvm anyway.
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