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RE: [Xen-devel] VT-d scalability issue

To: "Espen Skoglund" <espen.skoglund@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] VT-d scalability issue
From: "Han, Weidong" <weidong.han@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:29:56 +0800
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Espen Skoglund wrote:
> [Weidong Han]
>> Espen Skoglund wrote:
>>> Not regarding the other questions/objections in this thread for a
>>> moment --- what kind of performance improvments are we talking of
>>> here if the vcpus are pinned?  Is it close to 1 VM or is there
>>> still some performance degradation due to IOTLB pressure?
> 
>> Definitely performance will degrade due to IOTLB pressure when there
>> are many VMs which exhausts IOTLB.
> 
> But how much of the degradation is due to IOTLB pressure and how much
> is due to vcpu pinning?  If vcpu pinning doesn't give you much then
> why add the automatic pinning just to get a little improvement on
> older CPUs hooked up to a VT-d chipset?
> 

I don't know the performance data about this. I think Edwin can answer
this.

Randy (weidong)

>       eSk
> 
> 
>> Randy (Weidong)
> 
>>> 
>>> [And talking of IOTLB pressure, why can't Intel document the IOTLB
>>> sizes in the chipset docs?  Or even better, why can't these values
>>> be queried from the chipset?] 
>>> 
>>> eSk
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [Edwin Zhai]
>>>> Keir,
>>>> I have found a VT-d scalability issue and want to some feed backs.
>>> 
>>>> When I assign a pass-through NIC to a linux VM and increase the num
>>>> of VMs, the iperf throughput for each VM drops greatly. Say, start
>>>> 8 VM running on a machine with 8 physical cpus, start 8 iperf
>>>> client to connect each of them, the final result is only 60% of 1
>>>> VM. 
>>> 
>>>> Further investigation shows vcpu migration cause "cold" cache for
>>>> pass-through domain.  following code in vmx_do_resume try to
>>>> invalidate orig processor's cache when 14 migration if this domain
>>>> has pass-through device and no support for wbinvd vmexit.
>>> 
>>>> 16 if ( has_arch_pdevs(v->domain) && !cpu_has_wbinvd_exiting ) {
>>>> int cpu = v->arch.hvm_vmx.active_cpu;
>>>> if ( cpu != -1 )
>>>> on_selected_cpus(cpumask_of_cpu(cpu), wbinvd_ipi, NULL, 1,
>>> 
>>>> }
>>> 
>>>> So we want to pin vcpu to free processor for domains with
>>>> pass-through device in creation process, just like what we did for
>>>> NUMA system.
>>> 
>>>> What do you think of it? Or have other ideas?
>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> best rgds,
>>>> edwin
>>> 
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