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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] Disable Xen PowerNow! support on Opteron	2nd gen
 
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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] Disable Xen PowerNow! support on Opteron	2nd gen and earlier processors | 
 
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"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@xxxxxxxxxx> | 
 
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Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:19:53 +0000 | 
 
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Hi,
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 15:26 +0000, Keir Fraser wrote:
> > I spent a month trying to debug this and I made no significant
> > progress.  If someone who understands Xen timekeeping wants to
> > help me dive into this, I'll be glad to take another stab at
> > it.  As it is, even with informing Xen of frequency changes,
> > Xen does not ensure monotinicity.
> 
> Seeing them at that frequency (less than one a minute) is not too serious.
> Perhaps we should get rid of the message, or reduce its priority.
They are most definitely serious --- gettimeofday() going backwards
breaks Unix semantics.  It breaks applications.  It _will_ corrupt
application data --- things like database rollback logs that rely on
timestamp monotonicity to order things correctly will break.
I think this is something that Xen upstream ought to be pretty concerned
about.  If we can't fix it properly, then the workaround of disabling
powernow seems to be a must-have.
--Stephen
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